Thursday, 2009-04-09

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toumi01troal01: you really there?02:01
troal01I might be toumi01 :)02:24
toumi01:)02:24
toumi01a password question ... so I'll go private02:25
troal01Sure02:25
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satanmalinHi everyone10:26
pboroHi10:26
satanmalinHi pboro10:26
satanmalinDoes someone know how to upload on the wiki ??10:28
satanmalinupload a file10:28
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troal01Morning all, Pentaho's counters are i8s :D11:27
troal01At 3.2b now11:27
troal01I guess I had more rows than I thought cuz it's still going strong11:27
troal01Or I suppose they could be unsigned i411:27
troal01Yay done, funny how Pentaho can do what Ingres' copy command couldn't11:35
troal01copy froze at 77Gb11:35
troal01Pentaho got the whole table11:35
pborohow does Pentaho connect to the db?12:10
pboroJDBC, ODBC, ...?12:11
troal01JDBC is what I'm using12:11
pboroah, yup12:11
troal01Also accepts ODBC, JNDI (not used this)12:11
pboroI assume that JNDI is really JDBC but the datasource is provided using JNDI12:12
troal01Sounds like  a fair assumption :)12:14
satanmalinI try again does someone know how to upload the soure of easy ingres on the wiki page ??? please please12:17
SlimeyPeteI don't suppose anyone here knows how to set what options Ingres passes to GCC when compiling ABF binaries?12:22
SlimeyPeteI could mess with the default GCC specs file but it's all %*&s to me12:23
SlimeyPete(I've noticed that even our 64-bit UltraSPARC box is producing 32-bit binaries for V8 architecture - hypersparc etc.)12:24
satanmalinno one lnow :(13:01
satanmalinkmow13:01
satanmalinoki sorry my bad i found it13:19
troal01SlimeyPete: in many cases Ingres is compiled with -m32 on 64 bit systems13:57
troal01That's why a lot of 32 bit libraries are needed since the 64 bit ones are incompatible with the -m32 Ingres libs13:57
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SlimeyPetetroal01: our Ingres is a 64-bit install, though. It's just that it's creating 32-bit ABF binaries when we compile our 4GL code.14:08
SlimeyPeteso I think it's telling GCC to use mcpu=v8 when it should be mcpu=v914:09
SlimeyPetewhich means we wind up with 32-bit binaries which are optimised for hypersparcs14:09
troal01I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the Ingres build details... I do wish for it to stop using -m32 though so I can use a 64 bit gcc without multilib14:10
withdefaultSlimeyPete, I think that the options are take from $II_SYSTEM/ingres/files/utcom.def14:17
SlimeyPetewithdefault: ooh14:23
SlimeyPetein the "cc" section of that file, I presume?14:23
withdefaultI guess, I'm not too familiar with abf compilation14:23
SlimeyPeteI'll have a play, thanks14:24
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troal01clach04: ping14:58
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clach04troal01: belated pong16:41
troal01Hehe I was hoping you'd be at work at 7 am :D16:42
troal01Okay question ,regarding the django/ingres driver repository, did you just include the Ingres part there for a reason as opposed to the whole Django application?16:42
clach04do you mean the whole of django?16:43
troal01Yes16:43
troal01Kind of like what I've done with Trac and Drupal16:43
clach04I didn't want to fork it16:44
clach04forks are a bad :-)16:44
clach04and then you have to maintain them :-)16:44
troal01So you can just do svn co and have a working instance16:44
clach04just setup up a nested instance16:44
clach04yes16:44
clach04checkout django16:44
clach04then checkout the ingres driver in the django tree16:44
troal01Okay good point, with Trac I tagged 0.10.4, then just applied a diff of trac0.10.4-0.11.316:44
troal01It worked fairly well16:44
clach04I've been on other things recently so the driver has not been looked at in a while as you can probably tell by teh commit history16:45
clach04probably worth trying the latest GA (or even headrevs in trunk) release of Django16:45
clach04there are some performance improvements that have been made to the test suite - not sure if they will help us or not16:46
clach04in that you may need to setup a massive transaction log; I've not had any time to check out what is new properly16:46
troal01Okay will do, and yes I always make several GB transaction logs16:47
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troal01clach04: What parts of the django ingres driver needs the most attention would you say? I know of one sequence/autoincrement19:09
clach04how long is a piece of string :-)19:10
clach04do you have an aim with the driver, a specific app?19:10
troal01Yeah reviewboard19:10
troal01I know, too long table names etc19:11
clach04the reason I ask is datatype mapping19:11
clach04auto increment needs to be cleaner19:11
clach04it works, but it could be nicer19:11
clach04so yep, near the top of the list19:11
troal01Ah that's right, I see you use nvarchar, but wouldn't it be better to require utf8 charset and just use varchar?19:11
clach04depends on the app and the datatypes it uses19:12
clach04do you mind if I call you to chat instead of typing?19:12
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troal01clach04: not at all: 613697815719:12
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troal01clach04: Hmm for some reason your patch fails to apply and I can't figure out why20:13
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troal01It finds the files okay, it just fails each patch20:19
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troal01Hey clach04 still herE? Remember if the table name is available from Field.__dict__ ?23:38
troal01Also how do I actually run the test suite? :)23:41
troal01django-admin.py test? :)23:41
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clach04let me check my notes, I thin kthis may be in the readme23:49
clach04not in the readme but it is the tests/runtests.py script23:51
clach04yup, found my notes. just a simple:23:52
clach04tests\runtests.py --settings=testsettings23:52
clach04I do have a patch for runtests to limit which tests are ran for speed, I'll drop you a mail for that but the virgin one is the real one to run23:52

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