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| NoeWork | hry grantc, you around? | 18:04 |
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| grantc | lo NoeJeko | 18:04 |
| grantc | or NoeWork :) | 18:04 |
| grantc | nice nick btw .. | 18:04 |
| NoeWork | well, I am at work lol.. | 18:04 |
| grantc | sure but it's more what it sounds like ... | 18:04 |
| NoeWork | yeah haha - I actually never thought about that =] | 18:05 |
| NoeWork | have you seen the test integration of c.d.i and the forum? | 18:05 |
| grantc | I have, I mailed a picture to roy so he could see it | 18:05 |
| NoeWork | so I had a question about that | 18:06 |
| grantc | i also tested to see if forum->cdi would work :) | 18:06 |
| NoeWork | I'm sure you noticed but it's not properly threading everything | 18:06 |
| NoeWork | some things get threaded, some do not | 18:06 |
| NoeWork | do you think this is a show stopper? | 18:06 |
| grantc | It looked ok for me | 18:06 |
| NoeWork | if you look in the test forum | 18:06 |
| NoeWork | there are like 5 threads on the first page | 18:07 |
| NoeWork | Re: [Info-Ingres] ABF - VMS to LINUX | 18:07 |
| grantc | rather the threads in the forum matched the threads in my mail client | 18:07 |
| NoeWork | I assume these should all be in the same thread? | 18:07 |
| grantc | in theory yes - in reality people use mail clients that don't preserve all the header information, destroying threads | 18:07 |
| NoeWork | ok, so that's not the nntp gateway breaking the threading then? | 18:08 |
| NoeWork | *vB nntp gateway | 18:08 |
| NoeWork | I just don't want to do more damage than good with this, heh | 18:08 |
| grantc | as roy says he is just happy to see it thre | 18:09 |
| grantc | there... | 18:09 |
| grantc | see http://croker.net/~grant/cdi.png | 18:09 |
| NoeWork | I'm going to be spending the better part of a week cleaning spam out of here.. | 18:09 |
| NoeWork | but it should be easy top maintain once the initial import is complete | 18:10 |
| grantc | i assume the spam moderation works the same as with the rest of the forum? | 18:10 |
| NoeWork | oh.. so it breaks in a news client as well | 18:10 |
| NoeWork | eh, yeah we can delete things from that forum | 18:10 |
| grantc | i receive cdi via email | 18:11 |
| NoeWork | and they won't reappear since their id is less than last_import | 18:11 |
| grantc | i don't have access to usenet anymore since my ISP discontinued it | 18:11 |
| NoeWork | i had to buy an account on giganews to make this work, heh | 18:11 |
| grantc | sweet | 18:11 |
| NoeWork | we have 10 gb/mo xfer but since no one attaches anything I don't foresee us exceeding that | 18:12 |
| grantc | perhaps we can setup a NNTP server inside using your account :) | 18:12 |
| NoeWork | eh.. would probably need to up the bandwidth but I don't see why we couldn't | 18:12 |
| grantc | at least to get the comp hierarchy | 18:13 |
| NoeWork | lol every time i ask doug for money for something its like, $10 or less... | 18:13 |
| grantc | and perhaps alt.devil-bunnies.die.die.die | 18:13 |
| grantc | :) | 18:13 |
| NoeWork | mm we can look at that after the launch | 18:13 |
| grantc | ;) | 18:13 |
| NoeWork | have you noticed any functionality issues with it? | 18:13 |
| NoeWork | the blog templates aren't complete, and i still have some stock icons | 18:14 |
| grantc | the only thing is posting back in to cdi... | 18:14 |
| NoeWork | but from all my testing it seems to work pretty well | 18:14 |
| NoeWork | oh, that doesn't work? | 18:14 |
| grantc | i don't think so | 18:14 |
| NoeWork | oi... i don't know how to check that | 18:15 |
| NoeWork | oh, google groups | 18:15 |
| grantc | i just pm'd you the post i put out | 18:16 |
| NoeWork | yeha, I saw it in there | 18:16 |
| NoeWork | wasn't sure of its origins | 18:16 |
| NoeWork | hm | 18:16 |
| NoeWork | I'm going to reply to an existing thread | 18:17 |
| NoeWork | oh | 18:18 |
| NoeWork | the server rejected it | 18:18 |
| NoeWork | Can we post? server responded: 440 posting not allowed | 18:18 |
| grantc | i guess you can post, which plan did you get from gn? | 18:19 |
| NoeWork | i thought i got one that allows posting - i need to look up my password haha | 18:19 |
| grantc | doh | 18:20 |
| NoeWork | i have the um | 18:20 |
| NoeWork | pearl single user account | 18:20 |
| NoeWork | oh | 18:21 |
| NoeWork | the trial didn't allow posting | 18:21 |
| NoeWork | kekeke... | 18:21 |
| NoeWork | i just activated the full service | 18:21 |
| NoeWork | and its going to ignore both of our tests now, so i'll post another test thread | 18:21 |
| grantc | ok | 18:22 |
| NoeWork | result: 240 post accepted | 18:23 |
| NoeWork | but i don't see it in google groups | 18:23 |
| NoeWork | can you verify in your news client? | 18:23 |
| grantc | i will get it when the mailing list picks it up | 18:23 |
| NoeWork | oh, it tried to retrieve the message | 18:24 |
| NoeWork | and skipped it because it exists | 18:24 |
| NoeWork | so it *should* show up | 18:24 |
| grantc | give it a few minutes for the electrons to show up | 18:24 |
| NoeWork | this will be the last thing i do friday night.. last time i ran the import it took umn, 6 hours | 18:25 |
| NoeWork | =[ | 18:25 |
| grantc | its in google groups | 18:25 |
| NoeWork | beautiful | 18:25 |
| grantc | it attributes the post to Ingres Forums... is there any way that can be changed? | 18:26 |
| grantc | or perhaps that's your "username" | 18:26 |
| grantc | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.ingres/browse_thread/thread/1b24d0ccacfa7455# | 18:26 |
| NoeWork | nah, anything that comes from the forum was set to display as Ingres Forums | 18:27 |
| NoeWork | the reason being | 18:27 |
| NoeWork | the vBulletin user repository is not updated with things like email addresses | 18:27 |
| NoeWork | because we use LDAP | 18:27 |
| NoeWork | so its possible people could post with noreply@noemail.com | 18:27 |
| grantc | hmm ok | 18:27 |
| NoeWork | it was too much of a hassle to keep 3 user repositories in sync | 18:27 |
| NoeWork | LDAP/vB/TriCipher | 18:27 |
| grantc | i just got the mai | 18:27 |
| grantc | mail even.. | 18:28 |
| grantc | yeah i understand | 18:28 |
| NoeWork | ok i replied in google groups | 18:28 |
| NoeWork | and the forum picked it up | 18:28 |
| grantc | perhaps you could set the email address to info-ingres@kettleriverconsulting.com | 18:28 |
| NoeWork | and threaded it properly | 18:28 |
| NoeWork | eh? what's that haha? | 18:28 |
| grantc | info-ingres is a mailing list gateway to cdi | 18:29 |
| NoeWork | why isn't that @ingres.com? | 18:29 |
| grantc | coz it never has been | 18:29 |
| NoeWork | oh.. just seems weird to me to use a 3rd party email for this | 18:29 |
| NoeWork | but if that's the best way then I'll make the change | 18:30 |
| grantc | we can setup a usenet gateway on lists.ingres.com but I don't see much point when info-ingres works fine | 18:30 |
| grantc | I think it's best using info-ingres@kettleriverconsulting.com for the time being | 18:31 |
| NoeWork | ok - should i keep the display name as Ingres Forums? | 18:32 |
| grantc | Sure - I see no harm in that | 18:32 |
| NoeWork | ok, the change was made | 18:33 |
| grantc | sweet | 18:33 |
| NoeWork | this integration will add | 18:33 |
| grantc | there might be some other newsgroups of interest but I guess we should see how this one goes for the time being | 18:33 |
| NoeWork | 38k posts to the forum | 18:33 |
| grantc | nice | 18:33 |
| NoeWork | it went all the way back to 2003 | 18:33 |
| grantc | that's not bad... | 18:34 |
| grantc | anything older we can use google | 18:34 |
| NoeWork | yeah and anything < 2003 wouldn't do too well for our web interests | 18:34 |
| NoeWork | since it maintains the original post date | 18:34 |
| NoeWork | the SEO engine would just discard it as useless | 18:34 |
| grantc | google rates older as better :) | 18:35 |
| NoeWork | for pagerank and the like | 18:35 |
| NoeWork | but not for bringing up relevant searches | 18:35 |
| grantc | looking at the search in the test forum site - there are no characters in the captcha to type | 18:35 |
| NoeWork | because you have to be logged in | 18:35 |
| NoeWork | er - don't you? | 18:36 |
| grantc | it does not tell me that - i have a box where a captcha should be but no letters to guess | 18:36 |
| NoeWork | yeah, i can't reply anonymously to any of those threads | 18:36 |
| NoeWork | oO | 18:36 |
| NoeWork | on what page? | 18:36 |
| NoeWork | oh, i don't have it enabled there | 18:37 |
| NoeWork | it will show up in production | 18:37 |
| grantc | ah | 18:37 |
| NoeWork | lacking gd library | 18:37 |
| grantc | speaking of which, when will it go live? | 18:37 |
| NoeWork | friday at 10pm pacific i'll start the process | 18:37 |
| grantc | ok | 18:37 |
| NoeWork | the community eill be "shut down" for about 6 hours | 18:38 |
| NoeWork | but ill bring it back up during the c.d.i import | 18:38 |
| NoeWork | there are an unbelievable number of moving parts to this update | 18:38 |
| NoeWork | new forum version, new SEO version, new skin, blog plugin, new wiki skin, updates to login/reg system, new nntp gateway | 18:38 |
| NoeWork | um.. probably more that I can't remember offhand.. | 18:39 |
| grantc | :) | 18:39 |
| NoeWork | ill be glad when its over haha - this has been quite an extensive project | 18:40 |
| NoeWork | i learned a lot about better ways to integrate vB and MW, though | 18:40 |
| NoeWork | last time, i copypasta'd the resultant HTML from the forum templates into the MW template | 18:40 |
| grantc | anything us users would notice? apart from the layouy | 18:40 |
| NoeWork | this time, it uses the forum template engine | 18:40 |
| NoeWork | the comm8unity blogs | 18:41 |
| NoeWork | the community portal | 18:41 |
| NoeWork | CSS foxes to the wiki | 18:41 |
| NoeWork | *fixes | 18:41 |
| grantc | ok | 18:41 |
| NoeWork | we'll have an announcement/press release crafted highlighting all the changes | 18:42 |
| NoeWork | oh hell, i just remembered - we need a person to feature in the "Community Spotlight" box | 18:42 |
| * grantc ducks | 18:42 | |
| NoeWork | nah, we want external members so you're safe haha | 18:42 |
| grantc | :) | 18:42 |
| NoeWork | i'll probably target roy or karl haha | 18:43 |
| grantc | :) | 18:43 |
| grantc | right - it's time for me to knock off | 18:44 |
| grantc | tks for sorting out the usenet stuff | 18:44 |
| NoeWork | sure thing - ive been wanting this for a while | 18:44 |
| NoeWork | just didnt have any time to invest | 18:44 |
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