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| grantc | Alex|, i am looking at that NCLOB problem | 06:12 |
| Alex| | ok.. didn't hear anything from him yet | 06:12 |
| grantc | if you wish i can send a "patch" which contains a bunch of memory fixes | 06:13 |
| Alex| | sure... | 06:13 |
| grantc | the NCLOB stuff is not working right now although i have an idea where the problem is | 06:13 |
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| grantc | i have a question regarding nclob data - how do you verify it's correct? | 06:20 |
| Alex| | shouldn't you know what you've put in? :) | 06:20 |
| grantc | if it does not come out ok, was it because of the insert or the select :) | 06:22 |
| Alex| | what a philisohical question :) | 06:22 |
| Alex| | did the tree make a sound when no one was there? ;p | 06:22 |
| grantc | :) | 06:23 |
| grantc | so now i am trying to find a tool to view the data that is not php... | 06:23 |
| grantc | i wonder if python works | 06:24 |
| Alex| | vdba?.... | 06:24 |
| grantc | on linux ? | 06:25 |
| Alex| | whatever... :) | 06:25 |
| Alex| | squirrel | 06:25 |
| Alex| | dtp, idw, ... | 06:25 |
| grantc | dtp is what i am looking at but I don't know where to get the DTP modules for ingres from for 3.2 | 06:27 |
| Alex| | eclipse 3.2? | 06:28 |
| Alex| | not sure there is one... there is an Ingres plugin for dtp 1.5 which was for Eclipse 3.3 (maybe also 3.2) but the newer Ingres plugin requires dtp 1.6 and that I think requires Eclipse 3.3 or even 3.4 | 06:29 |
| grantc | i found rico's internal repo but saw it needed 3.3 like you mentioned | 06:30 |
| Alex| | idw is standalone and requires no installation... still you more or less get another eclipse with it... | 06:30 |
| grantc | perhaps i will give that a go | 06:31 |
| Alex| | still in heavy development but it's a start | 06:31 |
| Alex| | the new openroad based query tool!... also win only... | 06:31 |
| grantc | does the OR query tool do unicode? | 06:32 |
| Alex| | yes | 06:32 |
| Alex| | I didn't see it yet but I uploaded it with Chris on ESD and the text says it supports unicode | 06:32 |
| grantc | :) | 06:33 |
| grantc | time for lunch - i will take a look later one | 06:34 |
| atrofast | grantc: testing your idea for libxerces on ubuntu 9.04 | 07:19 |
| atrofast | And also using J's patch to fix mkdefault.sh | 07:19 |
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| grantc | Alex|, idw seems to have done the trick... | 07:36 |
| grantc | although selecting 2 nclobs is causing a problem | 07:36 |
| grantc | in idw that is | 07:36 |
| grantc | atrofast, what idea? | 07:37 |
| atrofast | using ls, pipes and grep/sed to get the version of xerces | 07:38 |
| grantc | ah - it should work since i use 9.04 | 07:39 |
| grantc | it's based on what Alex| does for gentoo | 07:39 |
| atrofast | It should work on just about any Linux distro I think | 07:40 |
| atrofast | As long as libs are stored in /usr/lib | 07:40 |
| atrofast | It would break if someone compiled it themselves and put it in /usr/local/lib | 07:41 |
| grantc | fair enough, i guess we could parse ld.conf | 07:42 |
| atrofast | Shouldn't be too hard :) | 07:44 |
| Alex| | does it handle xerces 3? | 07:47 |
| Alex| | because they changed the name pattern since 3 | 07:47 |
| grantc | does ingres support xerces3? | 07:48 |
| Alex| | libxerces-c.3.so or something instead of libxerces-c.so.2x | 07:48 |
| Alex| | do we support anything else than 2.5?... it compiles and runs with 3 if you mean that :) | 07:48 |
| grantc | fair enough | 07:49 |
| Alex| | I think my latest hack fpr that was to see where libxerses-c.so is symlinked to and have the actual lib name completly dynamical then... but that only works for systems where libxerces-c.so is a symlink to the real lib | 07:50 |
| grantc | would the proper way be to write a C program to extract the version? | 07:52 |
| Alex| | from where would it get the version? | 07:52 |
| grantc | i would imagine there is a version in the header files | 07:52 |
| grantc | there is | 07:54 |
| Alex| | many hpp in /usr/include/xercesc | 07:54 |
| grantc | XERCES_VERSION_MAJOR and XERCES_VERSION_MINOR in util/XercesVersion.hpp | 07:54 |
| Alex| | ah right there | 07:54 |
| atrofast | Did xerces 3 change that directory structure any? | 07:56 |
| Alex| | whereas I still think that we simply should link against libxerces-c and not a hardcoded version.... | 07:56 |
| grantc | yup... | 07:56 |
| Alex| | would avoid the whole problem | 07:56 |
| grantc | atrofast, are you going to flesh out that drupal page a bit more? | 07:57 |
| grantc | i.e. document the issues you have? | 07:57 |
| Alex| | I think the argument was, there could be several xercesc versions on a system - in which case, dynamically finding the version wouldn't change anything | 07:57 |
| atrofast | Sure, I can do that | 07:57 |
| Alex| | IT strategy meeting... I'm off... | 07:58 |
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| atrofast | grantc: with your patch + CVS head on Ingres 9.2 I didn't really notice anything wrong. The only issue that remains for me was the LOB one and LONG VARCHARs | 08:05 |
| grantc | can you document those in the wiki | 08:06 |
| atrofast | Yep | 08:07 |
| grantc | ta | 08:07 |
| atrofast | Is it just me or is the graphics/wiki messed up? | 08:07 |
| grantc | which page? | 08:08 |
| atrofast | All of it | 08:09 |
| grantc | it's ok for me - flush your caché | 08:11 |
| * DarylM thinks that after an Apple World Wide Developer Conference, there are plenty of ways to flush my cash...... :) | 08:14 | |
| DarylM | It would be fascinating to see what the new OpenCL multi-threading environment means for databases. | 08:16 |
| DarylM | http://www.khronos.org/opencl/ | 08:16 |
| atrofast | Yeah damn Apple, I want to get the new iPhone :P | 08:17 |
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| withdefault | Hello all, In the IUA session for Ingres road map | 08:28 |
| pboro | ahh, that's interesting part :) | 08:30 |
| withdefault | Going through the rationale of new features and road map | 08:32 |
| withdefault | strategy | 08:36 |
| withdefault | - smaller releases more often | 08:36 |
| withdefault | - Push the product | 08:36 |
| withdefault | - directed at new oppotunities | 08:36 |
| withdefault | Be flexible and reliable | 08:36 |
| withdefault | table procedures - 9.3 in qa | 08:39 |
| withdefault | Identity columns - 9.3 in qa | 08:39 |
| withdefault | sequence data type - 9.3 in qa | 08:39 |
| withdefault | Like for LOBs - 9.3 in qa | 08:39 |
| withdefault | Regex pattern matcing - 9.3 in qa | 08:39 |
| withdefault | JDBC 4.0 - 9.4 in process | 08:39 |
| withdefault | Long identifiers - 9..4 in process | 08:39 |
| grantc | ooo regexp | 08:39 |
| atrofast | withdefault: Like for LOBs as in where lob_col LIKE "something%something"? | 08:41 |
| withdefault | Ingres road map will look different to other vendors as the functionality will be released in smaller chunks. | 08:41 |
| grantc | lob support for regex search? | 08:41 |
| withdefault | atrofast, yes | 08:41 |
| atrofast | Sweet :) | 08:41 |
| withdefault | grantc, don't know | 08:41 |
| withdefault | Looking for suggestions in the 9.4 roadmap - take a look at the community wiki | 08:42 |
| withdefault | some discussion on Nulls in unique columns feature required for JBoss AS - as a configurable migration feature | 08:44 |
| withdefault | I'm also trying to update http://community.ingres.com/wiki/UK_IUA_2009 too | 08:45 |
| withdefault | question from the floor - migration from MySQL seems to be misplaced in prioities, wouldn't it be better to target Oracle PL/SQL | 08:47 |
| withdefault | or enhance Ingres dbproc language to make it better | 08:48 |
| withdefault | for example arrays with db procs | 08:48 |
| withdefault | allow ddl within db procs | 08:48 |
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| withdefault | Bill - for dbprocs; try to improve and make it debuggable by reusing OR infrastructure | 08:50 |
| withdefault | Roger - different way to address migrate PL/SQL applications by working with partners to replace PL/SQL in the application server and fits with the RedHat/JBoss/Ingres stack | 08:51 |
| withdefault | Rollfowarddb to a different name | 08:52 |
| withdefault | Add or drop partition scheme - convert a partition to table or vice versa | 08:53 |
| withdefault | QBF column hiding - reply is to try the new gui query tool | 08:55 |
| withdefault | or database workbench | 08:56 |
| withdefault | Make statistics on tables an SQL command | 08:56 |
| withdefault | Add a column to a table make it positional - alter table display column order - for example in help table | 08:58 |
| withdefault | Online sysmod | 08:58 |
| withdefault | * Silent tm monitor output - data only | 09:01 |
| withdefault | * copydb - recreate dependencies | 09:01 |
| withdefault | * recognise synonyms in copydb | 09:01 |
| withdefault | * ability to see view table dependencies | 09:01 |
| withdefault | Parallel reload | 09:01 |
| withdefault | meeting is coming to a close | 09:01 |
| withdefault | done | 09:02 |
| withdefault | There will be a page that Christine will publish on the community wiki | 09:06 |
| withdefault | talk to you all later | 09:07 |
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| grantc | cya | 09:07 |
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| DarylM | Ingres creates an application calls "bitsin" during a build (svn source) but a "jam clean" at the top level does not seem to remove the built image. Seems like a build script bug.... | 12:39 |
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