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| Dejan | zxiiro: network problems? :) | 03:04 |
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| Gerhard | Hi all | 04:40 |
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| Dejan | hiho | 04:44 |
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| Gerhard | Hi all, are there any (free) alternatives to Ingres' isql / VDBA? They both seem a little bit old-fashioned. | 05:03 |
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| Dejan | hello | 06:33 |
| DarylM | Guten Morgen ;) | 06:34 |
| DarylM | The Redhat/JBoss summit turned out pretty good given the state of the economy. | 06:35 |
| Dejan | have you been there? | 06:35 |
| DarylM | Last 2.5 days | 06:35 |
| Dejan | lucky you | 06:35 |
| DarylM | Sorta. I was staffing the exhibit center floor | 06:36 |
| DarylM | But it is really fun talking to everyone and hearing what their cool projects area | 06:36 |
| DarylM | are* | 06:36 |
| Dejan | what is the company you are working for, DarylM ? | 06:37 |
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| DarylM | It is a deep dark secret,....... | 06:37 |
| Dejan | :D | 06:37 |
| DarylM | But it relates to not so famous painters | 06:37 |
| DarylM | :) | 06:38 |
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| Dejan | did not know you work for Picasso International | 06:38 |
| DarylM | LOL | 06:39 |
| Dejan | ;) | 06:39 |
| Dejan | speaking of Ingres - never saw any of his paintings | 06:39 |
| Dejan | all i know is that he is neoclassicist | 06:41 |
| Dejan | which is good | 06:41 |
| Dejan | i like that period in art | 06:41 |
| DarylM | Google images seems like good place to start. Seems to like painting nudes...... | 06:42 |
| ii_log | http://www.dlisted.com/node/30089 | 06:42 |
| Dejan | well, he was French | 06:42 |
| Dejan | they just dream about sex | 06:42 |
| Dejan | :D | 06:42 |
| DarylM | ROFL | 06:42 |
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| DarylM | So anyway ......... The conference was very well attended which made everyone happy. | 06:44 |
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| Dejan | does anyone know - is it possible to make .xz tarballs as easy as .bz2 ? | 06:45 |
| DarylM | OpenSource advocates seems to be making a lot of headway at companies that are traditionally a bit more reluctant to embrace the business model | 06:45 |
| Dejan | (with some flag?) | 06:45 |
| DarylM | xz? | 06:45 |
| Dejan | yeah | 06:45 |
| Dejan | xz = lzma2 | 06:45 |
| Dejan | apparently it is now part of the coreutils | 06:46 |
| DarylM | gack. too many compression programs.... | 06:46 |
| Dejan | that is why i wonder if we have now some flag | 06:46 |
| Dejan | to make .tar.xz | 06:46 |
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| Dejan | DarylM: it is not surprising move | 06:48 |
| Dejan | lzma2 is awesome | 06:48 |
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| rossand | hey all, we used to have page describing how to get into this irc channel - does anyone know where it went? | 07:19 |
| rossand | I can't seem to find it on the various web sites. | 07:19 |
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| grantc | google ingres rc | 07:22 |
| ii_log | http://community.ingres.com/forum/dba-forum/768-problem-solaris-rc-startup-script.html | 07:22 |
| grantc | google ingres irc | 07:22 |
| ii_log | http://dbaspot.com/forums/ingres-database/381841-ingres-irc-channel-freenode-net.html | 07:22 |
| grantc | google ingres irc freenode | 07:23 |
| ii_log | http://community.ingres.com/wiki/Ingres_on_IRC | 07:23 |
| grantc | bingo... | 07:24 |
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| Dejan | rossand: simply tell people to try irc://irc.freenode.org/ingres | 07:28 |
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| Dejan | if they have Opera or SeaMonkey it will work straight | 07:28 |
| Dejan | Firefox needs chatzilla extension to handle irc:// | 07:28 |
| rossand | ii_log: Thanks! | 07:28 |
| ii_log | rossand: Error: "Thanks!" is not a valid command. | 07:28 |
| rossand | Dejan: Neat suggestion. I didn't have chatzilla myself. I've gotten used to pidgin to consolidate all my IM/IRC stuff. | 07:29 |
| Dejan | rossand: whenever i need to discuss something on IRC with people who have no idea how to use IRC | 07:30 |
| Dejan | i tell them to use opera or seamonkey and use the URI above | 07:30 |
| Dejan | and it always work smoothly | 07:30 |
| rossand | oh, I guess ms. log is a bot? | 07:30 |
| Dejan | ii_log ? | 07:30 |
| ii_log | Dejan: Error: "?" is not a valid command. | 07:30 |
| Dejan | yep | 07:30 |
| Dejan | but i have no idea who's administrating it | 07:31 |
| Dejan | :D | 07:31 |
| grantc | I be itz mazter... | 07:32 |
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| grantc | stats | 07:33 |
| grantc | @stats #ingres | 07:33 |
| ii_log | grantc: (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database. | 07:33 |
| grantc | @stats | 07:33 |
| ii_log | grantc: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. | 07:33 |
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| Dejan | guys, any idea how i got this: http://codepad.org/EaZp5Veg | 07:34 |
| Dejan | i basically did not do anything | 07:35 |
| Dejan | i nicely shot down the server | 07:35 |
| Dejan | and started it again | 07:35 |
| grantc | there must been something in the system log file | 07:35 |
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| Dejan | nothing | 07:36 |
| Dejan | SRV021 ::[60880 , 20713 , 0000000000000001, sc0e.c:316 ]: Fri Sep 4 15:21:48 2009 E_CL2518_CS_NORMAL_SHUTDOWN The Server has terminated normally. | 07:36 |
| Dejan | this is the last line | 07:36 |
| Dejan | hello FrankW | 07:36 |
| toumi01 | Dejan: did you try ipclean after stopping Ingres? could be left over shared memory? | 07:37 |
| Dejan | toumi01: nope | 07:37 |
| Dejan | but thanks for suggestion | 07:37 |
| toumi01 | typo - should be ipcclean | 07:37 |
| Dejan | yep | 07:37 |
| Dejan | no worries | 07:37 |
| Dejan | Starting the Recovery Server...FAIL | 07:38 |
| Dejan | boomer | 07:38 |
| Dejan | did not help | 07:38 |
| Dejan | anyway | 07:38 |
| Dejan | i will try to run it without recovery :D | 07:38 |
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| DarylM | You can't run Ingres without dmfrcp | 07:38 |
| Dejan | i thought i do... | 07:39 |
| toumi01 | did you change anything that would cause the server to want more than shmmax? that's another idea | 07:39 |
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| Dejan | toumi01: nope | 07:40 |
| toumi01 | shot down = kill -9 or some such? | 07:40 |
| Dejan | nope | 07:40 |
| Dejan | reboot -n | 07:40 |
| Dejan | i had to reboot machine | 07:40 |
| toumi01 | :-O | 07:41 |
| toumi01 | as you probably know that iirundbms: server would not start set of messages is just a bunch of WAGs | 07:42 |
| grantc | Dejan, do you have any files in ingres/files/memory? | 07:42 |
| toumi01 | I call it the "turnip truck" message and once made an (unintegrated) change to add the question: "Did you just fall off of a turnip truck?" ;-) | 07:43 |
| Dejan | grantc: hold on, i will check that | 07:44 |
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| toumi01 | but grantc is right that it must be something like leftover files or log corruption or some such - probably not something another reboot would fix - and there _should_ be a log entry somewhere | 07:44 |
| Dejan | grantc: yes i do | 07:44 |
| Dejan | i have lglkdata.mem sysseg.mem] | 07:45 |
| grantc | ok run ingstop && cscleanup | 07:45 |
| grantc | and check to see if those files are still there | 07:45 |
| Dejan | yep | 07:45 |
| grantc | ok delete them | 07:45 |
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| grantc | then try starting ingres | 07:46 |
| Dejan | Allocating shared memory for Logging and Locking Systems... | 07:46 |
| Dejan | Shared memory already exists for key d9022075 | 07:46 |
| Dejan | Error 70176 creating the system shared memory segment | 07:46 |
| Dejan | --- | 07:46 |
| Dejan | that is what i got | 07:46 |
| grantc | ok ingstop and then run ipcs | 07:47 |
| Dejan | i did | 07:47 |
| Dejan | i got some segments reported | 07:48 |
| Dejan | and 1 semaphore array | 07:48 |
| grantc | i guess you have some shared memory bits for ingres | 07:48 |
| grantc | ipcrm -m <shmid> and ipcrm -s <semid> | 07:49 |
| Dejan | i found what was the problem | 07:50 |
| Dejan | omg | 07:50 |
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| Dejan | it was not related ti shmem at all (!!) | 07:50 |
| Dejan | somehow i lost logfile | 07:50 |
| Dejan | when i recreated it everything worked fine | 07:51 |
| grantc | strange | 07:51 |
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| Dejan | yep | 07:52 |
| Dejan | it should report it | 07:53 |
| Dejan | instead of giving false alarm | 07:53 |
| Dejan | about shared mem | 07:53 |
| grantc | like toumi01 i am surprised there is noting in the errlog.log saying where the fsck is my log file? | 07:56 |
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| Dejan | that is why i asked you guys what could be wrong | 07:57 |
| grantc | what about in ingres/files/iircp.log¿? | 07:57 |
| Dejan | grantc: i will check that one now | 07:57 |
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| Dejan | http://codepad.org/vAkg6XKi | 07:58 |
| Dejan | there it is | 07:58 |
| Dejan | LOL | 07:58 |
| Dejan | that is in iirpc.log | 07:58 |
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| Dejan | IMHO it would be brilliant to have Ingres documentation in the CHM format, don't you think? :) | 09:33 |
| Dejan | is documentation in the svn? | 09:34 |
| Dejan | i never checked it | 09:34 |
| grantc | it used to be under techpub | 09:34 |
| grantc | it still is | 09:34 |
| Dejan | found it | 09:35 |
| Dejan | src/tools/techpub | 09:35 |
| Dejan | ah, PDF | 09:35 |
| Dejan | it would be great to have this as set of DocBook files | 09:36 |
| Dejan | or TeX files | 09:36 |
| Dejan | i cannot make CHM out of PDFs :( | 09:36 |
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| grantc | our doc tool does not generate docbook | 09:37 |
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| thiagomz | guys, | 11:34 |
| thiagomz | how can i invalidate procedure that are in cache | 11:35 |
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| thiagomz | qs506 | 11:55 |
| thiagomz | :) | 11:55 |
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