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| Dejan | ups | 00:46 |
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| Dejan | :D | 00:46 |
| Dejan | good morning gents | 00:46 |
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| Dejan | morning guys | 01:00 |
| grantc | morning Dejan | 01:01 |
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| Dejan | hello PaulM05 & Mud | 01:26 |
| PaulM05 | moring Dejan | 01:27 |
| Dejan | guys, i was thinking yesterday about something that IMHO may be very useful | 01:46 |
| Dejan | i think it would be just great if Ingres offers a way to use D-BUS to connect to a database | 01:47 |
| Dejan | or, even better, to all installations | 01:47 |
| Dejan | D-BUS is already a "standard" on Linux | 01:48 |
| pboro | what would you use if for? | 01:48 |
| Dejan | to get data | 01:49 |
| Dejan | D-BUS is now used for all kind of IPC | 01:51 |
| Dejan | on Linux | 01:51 |
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| * Dejan thinks MODIFY statement should have "WITH JOURNALING" option as well | 03:53 | |
| Dejan | :) | 03:53 |
| PaulM05 | do you mean to enable journaling? | 03:53 |
| Dejan | yeah | 03:54 |
| Dejan | it would an alternative to SET JOURNALING ON ... | 03:54 |
| Dejan | a first thought of a noob like me was to use MODIFY TABLE <table name> TO RECONSTRUCT WITH JOURNALING | 03:55 |
| Dejan | (to enable journaling) | 03:56 |
| Dejan | sure SET JOURNALING ON is a better option than reconstruct... | 03:56 |
| Dejan | :) | 03:57 |
| Dejan | but IMHO journaling should be in the MODIFY statement too | 03:57 |
| Dejan | somehow | 03:57 |
| Dejan | :) | 03:57 |
| PaulM05 | perhaps | 03:57 |
| PaulM05 | MODIFY already does so much | 03:57 |
| PaulM05 | which I suppose is why people think it does everything :) | 03:58 |
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| Dejan | yep :) | 04:01 |
| Dejan | well, it makes sense - MODIFY is used for all kinds of table-modifications | 04:01 |
| Dejan | and journaling is yet another one | 04:01 |
| PaulM05 | it would have implications for your transactions | 04:03 |
| PaulM05 | you'd only be able to do it at the start of a transaction | 04:03 |
| Dejan | sure it does | 04:04 |
| Dejan | those who know would use SET JOURNALING ON <table name> | 04:04 |
| Dejan | those who do not know can still enable journaling | 04:04 |
| Dejan | via MODIFY | 04:04 |
| Dejan | :D | 04:04 |
| PaulM05 | Which means you'd also start journaling before the modify if the modify made other changes | 04:05 |
| Dejan | sure, no question about it | 04:05 |
| PaulM05 | none of which is insurmountable | 04:05 |
| Dejan | my point is more to help novices | 04:05 |
| Dejan | to do something, even though it is not the best way to do it | 04:05 |
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| siman01 | hi guys is there a standard way to get the list of libraries required to link esql/c? I can see it might be defined in utility/iisysdep, I'm looking for something a bit like pkg-config that I can use in a make script | 04:36 |
| grantc | siman01, unfortunately not | 04:38 |
| grantc | -L$II_SYSTEM/ingres/lib -lq.1 -lframe.1 -lcompat.1 | 04:38 |
| Dejan | pkg-config support in ingres is a good thing to have | 04:40 |
| siman01 | thanks grant, I think I also need -lrt (for get_time) or am I doing something wrong (using 10.0.0 build 120) | 04:47 |
| grantc | it's a bug - there were a large number of "improvements" made to the build process which caused some regressions, this was one of them. The fix was submitted into main in the last 24 hours. Until a new build is posted with the change included you have to manually link against librt.so | 04:49 |
| siman01 | brilliant thanks | 04:50 |
| grantc | https://bugs.ingres.com/changeset/2784 | 04:51 |
| siman01 | Dejan I don't know enough about ingbuild to know if pkg-config configuration could be added but support would be useful | 04:52 |
| Dejan | i absolutely agree | 04:59 |
| Dejan | ingres uses jam atm i think | 04:59 |
| Dejan | so it should be easy to generate .pc file | 04:59 |
| grantc | in theory it should be simple - all the information is there in iisysdep... | 04:59 |
| grantc | then you have the issue of the flags for openapi, odbc, or embedded SQL | 05:00 |
| PaulM05 | if you have the source and a working build environment with the tests then you'll have seplnk | 05:03 |
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| PaulM05 | you could dig into the code for that to see how it determines the libraries (based on iisysdep no doubt) | 05:05 |
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| Dejan | Question: Where to get information about Ingres "uptime"? :) | 06:04 |
| Dejan | ok, i can query errlog | 06:04 |
| Dejan | and search through it.. | 06:05 |
| Dejan | i wonder if imadb has that info :D | 06:05 |
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| PaulM05 | @Dejan - here's a way to do it - http://ingres.pastebin.com/u86LXt5R | 06:37 |
| ii_log | PaulM05: Error: "Dejan" is not a valid command. | 06:37 |
| Dejan | @help | 06:38 |
| ii_log | Dejan: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 06:38 |
| Dejan | @select * from ii_log | 06:38 |
| ii_log | Dejan: Error: "select" is not a valid command. | 06:38 |
| Dejan | blah | 06:39 |
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| Vroomfondle | bah | 07:16 |
| Dejan | i wonder why are we not allowed to change nullable column into a not-nullable, if we specify default value? | 07:26 |
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| pboro | Dejan, that's what I've been wondering often too | 09:18 |
| Dejan | erm, guys | 09:38 |
| Dejan | select mod(4, 0.3) takes ages... | 09:38 |
| Dejan | :) | 09:38 |
| Dejan | hell ukjay | 09:40 |
| ukjay | dejan: morning | 09:41 |
| Dejan | s/hell/hello/ | 09:41 |
| Dejan | IMHO Ingres should shout when someone does MOD(4, 0.25) | 09:47 |
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| ukjay | Anyone had trouble building head revs today? I'm getting: | 09:59 |
| ukjay | /devsrc/main/b100/src/common/adf/adg/adgfi_defn.c:3337: error: ‘ADFI_1463_SINGLETON_ALL’ undeclared here (not in a function) | 09:59 |
| ukjay | ... and similar. Think it's related to Alison's long IDs change | 09:59 |
| pboro | at least my automated build system succeeded last night: http://www.fixel.org/ingres/20100413/jam_04_13_10_0322.log | 10:05 |
| pboro | but it's based on trunk | 10:05 |
| pboro | (i.e. it uses svn checkout http://code.ingres.com/ingres/main) | 10:05 |
| pboro | that was for ukjay :) | 10:06 |
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| ukjay | pboro: thanks. Will try svn, it should be the same as piccolo (internal). Might help me work out what's wrong. | 10:29 |
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