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Vroomfondle | so... does this channel now change to #actian? | 13:43 |
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pboro | whut?! | 13:43 |
Dejan | i do not think rdbms is going to change name | 13:44 |
pboro | oh shi- | 13:44 |
Dejan | and that is the only thing i care about (related to Actian) | 13:44 |
Dejan | :) | 13:44 |
Vroomfondle | am mildly perturbed that the RDBMS wasn't mentioned in the press release at all | 13:44 |
Vroomfondle | not even in a "still has a commitment to" kind of way | 13:44 |
Dejan | it is about company, i do not believe they will change the name of RDBMS | 13:44 |
Dejan | because it is a brand | 13:45 |
Dejan | you rarely change the name of a brand | 13:45 |
pboro | Vroomfondle, I'm a bit worried too | 13:47 |
Vroomfondle | Dejan: am not actually too bothered about the name of the DBMS. I'm bothered that there's no immediate indication that the new strategy involves the DBMS at all. | 13:51 |
Vroomfondle | the new website seems to be prioritising Vectorwise and whatever these new "Action Apps" things are. The DBMS isn't mentioned on the front page at all. | 13:53 |
Dejan | ah that... strategy would be obvious if you were at this year's IUA conference... | 13:53 |
Dejan | they focus on VectorWise | 13:54 |
Dejan | and now these Action Apps | 13:54 |
Dejan | They will probably pay small team (old Ingres team) to work on Ingres | 13:54 |
Dejan | and that is all | 13:55 |
Vroomfondle | we don't attend the IUA. My previous manager didn't see the point. | 13:55 |
Vroomfondle | I used to argue with that. I now feel vindicated. | 13:55 |
Dejan | point is to get informed, and talk with Ingres professionals face-to-face | 13:55 |
Vroomfondle | are the IUA minutes/whatever online? | 13:55 |
Dejan | they should be... | 13:56 |
Vroomfondle | I can't see them on the IUA site | 13:56 |
Vroomfondle | might be being blind though | 13:56 |
Dejan | i was irritated by the fact they (Actian devs) were so into mobile apps, cloud etc on IUA | 13:56 |
Dejan | that was so visible | 13:56 |
Dejan | i understand they are focused on VW, it is a good product | 13:57 |
Dejan | but companies like mine simply do not need it | 13:57 |
Vroomfondle | hrm, nope, they don't appear to be on the site. | 13:58 |
Vroomfondle | this is quite important for us - it may strongly affect our strategy for the next few years so I'll need to make my managers aware | 13:58 |
Dejan | they talked about it on the conference | 13:59 |
Dejan | their primary focus is VW, and Cloud | 13:59 |
* Vroomfondle emails the IUA to ask if there's a document anywhere | 14:01 | |
Dejan | i am not a committee anymore due to the lack of time | 14:06 |
Dejan | and, quite frankly, i do not like the direction of the company | 14:06 |
Dejan | but it is their right to do what they think is the best | 14:06 |
Vroomfondle | when I joined this team 5 years ago I said "So, who gets to go to the IUA? Can I go?" and the response was (literally) "Why on earth would you want to do that?! Can you imagine how boring it'd be??" | 14:07 |
Vroomfondle | I knew that was a stupid attitude at the time and now I know I was right :D | 14:07 |
Dejan | IMHO the best course of action would be to "externalize" Ingres RDBMS | 14:07 |
Dejan | either as a fork or something | 14:07 |
Vroomfondle | they'd need to do that pretty quickly. I'm certain that when I mention this to my managers they will decide to just jump to another DBMS ASAP (which will take a few years, admittedly). IT managers don't like uncertainty. | 14:08 |
Dejan | Roy raised that question | 14:09 |
Dejan | even before the IUA | 14:09 |
Dejan | (it was on our mail list) | 14:09 |
Dejan | they assured us Ingres will continue to be developed | 14:10 |
Dejan | and supported | 14:10 |
Dejan | that was all i needed to know :) | 14:10 |
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