Thursday, 2011-09-22

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Vroomfondleso... does this channel now change to #actian?13:43
pborowhut?!13:43
Dejani do not think rdbms is going to change name13:44
pborooh shi-13:44
Dejanand that is the only thing i care about (related to Actian)13:44
Dejan:)13:44
Vroomfondleam mildly perturbed that the RDBMS wasn't mentioned in the press release at all13:44
Vroomfondlenot even in a "still has a commitment to" kind of way13:44
Dejanit is about company, i do not believe they will change the name of RDBMS13:44
Dejanbecause it is a brand13:45
Dejanyou rarely change the name of a brand13:45
pboroVroomfondle, I'm a bit worried too13:47
VroomfondleDejan: am not actually too bothered about the name of the DBMS. I'm bothered that there's no immediate indication that the new strategy involves the DBMS at all.13:51
Vroomfondlethe new website seems to be prioritising Vectorwise and whatever these new "Action Apps" things are. The DBMS isn't mentioned on the front page at all.13:53
Dejanah that... strategy would be obvious if you were at this year's IUA conference...13:53
Dejanthey focus on VectorWise13:54
Dejanand now these Action Apps13:54
DejanThey will probably pay small team (old Ingres team) to work on Ingres13:54
Dejanand that is all13:55
Vroomfondlewe don't attend the IUA. My previous manager didn't see the point.13:55
VroomfondleI used to argue with that. I now feel vindicated.13:55
Dejanpoint is to get informed, and talk with Ingres professionals face-to-face13:55
Vroomfondleare the IUA minutes/whatever online?13:55
Dejanthey should be...13:56
VroomfondleI can't see them on the IUA site13:56
Vroomfondlemight be being blind though13:56
Dejani was irritated by the fact they (Actian devs) were so into mobile apps, cloud etc on IUA13:56
Dejanthat was so visible13:56
Dejani understand they are focused on VW, it is a good product13:57
Dejanbut companies like mine simply do not need it13:57
Vroomfondlehrm, nope, they don't appear to be on the site.13:58
Vroomfondlethis is quite important for us - it may strongly affect our strategy for the next few years so I'll need to make my managers aware13:58
Dejanthey talked about it on the conference13:59
Dejantheir primary focus is VW, and Cloud13:59
* Vroomfondle emails the IUA to ask if there's a document anywhere14:01
Dejani am not a committee anymore due to the lack of time14:06
Dejanand, quite frankly, i do not like the direction of the company14:06
Dejanbut it is their right to do what they think is the best14:06
Vroomfondlewhen I joined this team 5 years ago I said "So, who gets to go to the IUA? Can I go?" and the response was (literally) "Why on earth would you want to do that?! Can you imagine how boring it'd be??"14:07
VroomfondleI knew that was a stupid attitude at the time and now I know I was right :D14:07
DejanIMHO the best course of action would be to "externalize" Ingres RDBMS14:07
Dejaneither as a fork or something14:07
Vroomfondlethey'd need to do that pretty quickly. I'm certain that when I mention this to my managers they will decide to just jump to another DBMS ASAP (which will take a few years, admittedly). IT managers don't like uncertainty.14:08
DejanRoy raised that question14:09
Dejaneven before the IUA14:09
Dejan(it was on our mail list)14:09
Dejanthey assured us Ingres will continue to be developed14:10
Dejanand supported14:10
Dejanthat was all i needed to know :)14:10
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