Friday, 2009-03-06

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NoeJekoi got the RSS feeds in for the 1.4.2 ESD release06:27
NoeJekoRSS 2.0 or Atom feed of the most recent releases06:27
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grantcwe now have proper certs for bugs and code.ingres.com08:52
Alex|oh, indeed08:53
grantcbugs will not work though since dns needs updating08:53
Alex|are the two subdomains on different IPs?08:54
grantcyup08:54
Alex|good... apache doesn't support different certs on the same IP08:54
grantcsince we are using virt hosting its the only way08:54
grantcnot sure any server does08:54
Alex|yup08:54
Alex|ok, could be08:54
Alex|I only ran into that problem with apache once08:55
grantcits a shame, i was looking for a *.croker.net cert but those required the opening of my wallet more than i was intending08:56
pboro:D08:56
pboroAlex|, it's not apache's limitation08:57
pboroAlex|, but the way how SSL works...08:57
Alex|I'm still happy with cacert.org... it'll never be trusted in all the browsers but that's life08:57
pboroand HTTP :)08:57
pboroGandi sells certificates for approx 12 euros / year08:57
pborobut the domain has to be registered at gandi too08:57
grantcpboro, i got one from godaddy.com for 10€08:58
grantcor was it $10?08:58
pborograntc, does it work on all major browsers?08:58
grantci believe so08:59
pboronice, I guess it's alike with Gandi then08:59
grantcit's not active right now since i am moving from lighttpd to apache08:59
pborograntc, does godaddy require that the domain is registered there or can it be elsewhere?09:00
grantcnope - i am with 123-reg in the UK for croker.net, all they do is check the whois records and send an email to the admin contact IIRC09:01
pborowow, cool, thanks for the info09:01
grantctook about 2 hours09:01
* grantc thinks he should be on commission09:01
grantc_now_ it's sorted09:06
pboro:)09:07
grantcif you use 98.129.129.50 for the IP address for bugs then you will get the shiny new cert09:07
pborowow, godaddy has its own root CA even09:07
grantclicense to print money you mean :)09:07
pborohaha :) yup09:07
pborohmm they also sell code signing certs, have to check that out...09:08
pboroahh, not that cheap anymore09:08
Alex|you can get those at cacert.org, too, for free... but not accepted everywhere09:09
pboroAlex|, acceptance is pretty critical... I can create my own CA if I don't need acceptance :D09:10
Alex|cacert has good acceptance... but not in IE09:20
Alex|never...09:20
Alex|non-profit organization cannot pay 75k$ per year....09:20
grantcare they in safari/opera/fireferret?09:26
Alex|http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/InclusionStatus09:30
grantcok - tks for the info...10:09
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troal01If I have the ckp and dmp files, can I rebuild a database from that?13:07
pboroiirc yes, with some restrictions13:08
troal01What are the restrictions? :)13:08
troal01And which doc to look in how to do it?13:08
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pborocan't remember... someone more knowledgeable can prolly tell :) it was only discussed here, I don't know if it's documented anywhere13:08
troal01I betcha it involves hacking :D13:09
troal01These guys love hacking the system catalogs13:09
pboro:D13:09
troal01http://community.ingres.com/forum/dba-forum/5-move-db-checkpoint-rollforward.html13:12
Alex|this is what I once got13:17
Alex|http://nopaste.org/p/amHkQlrfjb13:17
Alex|never tried that13:17
grantcit's quite simple really (says me)13:31
grantcthe target system needs to have the same directory structure13:31
grantcthe source one needs to be shutdown before copying if you move across the journals13:32
grantcdmp files i think are only needed if you took an online checkpoint13:32
grantccreate the db in the target, copy cnf from source to target data location and dmp13:33
grantccopy across ckp/jnl/dmp files13:33
grantcstart up ingres13:33
grantcrollforward13:33
grantctroal01, its not documented since it is not supported13:34
troal01Hehe, I'll try that, thanks grantc13:34
grantcat least not if you don't pay us lots of money13:34
grantci.e. premium support13:34
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troal01Delete operations on an ext4 file system are extremely fast13:46
pborowell...14:00
pborothere are alike with ext2, but the fs does them in the background (alike with ufs)14:01
pboroso the rm command returns almost immediately14:01
NoeJeko=[ i need to get off helpdesk email distro..14:08
* NoeJeko just woke up to 30 irrelevant mails14:08
pboro:D14:09
grantcyou guys need a trouble ticket system14:09
NoeJekosrsly14:09
NoeJekoits in my queue to implement lol14:09
Alex|ServiceDesk......... :)14:10
grantcuk paul mentioned it as being needed14:10
NoeJekooh god no14:10
NoeJekoalso in that same queue14:10
NoeJekois a lightweight web app14:10
NoeJeko... that tells us where to go for lunch each day14:10
grantcorts?14:10
grantcis'nt there an app for the iFawn that does that?14:11
Alex|yeah, no more decisions14:11
NoeJekomm - theres yelp but i don't know of one that makes that decision fot you14:11
grantcotrs even..14:11
NoeJekoand in IT i'm the only one that has one14:11
grantcno one else is beholden to the cult of cupertino ;)14:12
NoeJekono one else wanted to buy it themselves and ingres views it as an "entertainment device with no business value"14:12
grantc+1 :)14:13
Alex|my manager is buying a new device now because he's very unhappy with the thing - no business device14:13
NoeJekolol.. as my job is primarily deb development, I think the full safari browser better enables me to do my job than a blackberry14:13
NoeJeko*web14:13
grantcfor me it was a toss up between an ifone and an e71...14:14
NoeJekothe only thing i hate about it is no push messaging14:14
NoeJekoyou get push from activesync and nothing else14:14
NoeJekono more AIM to keep my sanity in evening traffic..14:15
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NoeJekooh Alex I added an RSS/Atom feed of the most recent ESD releases..14:15
* NoeJeko facepalms14:15
NoeJekoperfect timing14:16
NoeJekoi like the e71's look and feel14:17
NoeJekoscreen's a bit too small for my tastes14:17
NoeJekoargh why do you all get the cool phones first14:18
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NoeJekothat was one of the good things about living in italy - my friends back in the states had rarely even heard of my phone14:18
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troal01Where are the #ingres logs again?14:31
troal01Hold that thought, BRB14:33
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troal01grantc: where can I find the #ingres logs again? :)14:48
Alex|I guess the link should be in the topic14:50
troal01That would be great14:51
troal01Ahh it's http://irc.planetingres.org/14:56
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troal01Thanks grantc :)15:25
grantcnp - i guess it should have been there before15:25
troal01You cna find it with google, that's how I found it hehe :)15:25
troal01BTW your trick to using ckp, it worked I think15:27
troal01It seems to be reloading the DB okay on another system now15:28
troal01Thanks again grantc15:28
grantcnp15:28
grantcsome day i must remove all this old knowledge for some new stuff15:28
troal01Not before you write thme down! I might need it some day :D15:29
grantcanyone else from ingres having problems connecting to the IM server?15:44
DarylMyes15:44
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