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| satanmalin | satanmalin is back | 09:14 |
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| satanmalin | Hi everyone | 09:14 |
| satanmalin | grantc sorry for disturbing you on the wiki page (when you have time) you have put a wrong adress for me (satin instead of satan LOL) | 09:16 |
| grantc | feel free to change it | 09:16 |
| satanmalin | I can? | 09:16 |
| grantc | providing you have a community login you can change any page | 09:17 |
| satanmalin | oki thanks | 09:17 |
| satanmalin | done | 09:18 |
| grantc | http://docs.php.net/ingres - yay | 10:07 |
| SlimeyPete | excellent :) | 10:07 |
| SlimeyPete | all up-to-date now? | 10:07 |
| grantc | it's not been pushed out to the main docs but will be today i guess | 10:08 |
| grantc | SlimeyPete, more or less | 10:08 |
| grantc | feel free to log comments if you feel stuff is missing from individual pages or log a bug... | 10:08 |
| grantc | or ping me | 10:10 |
| SlimeyPete | k :) | 10:11 |
| * SlimeyPete tells his boss to update his bookmarks | 10:11 | |
| grantc | the docs link is regenerated daily where as http://php.net/ingres is weekly | 10:12 |
| grantc | and is mirrored | 10:12 |
| Alex| | the existing comments are a bit misleading now | 10:26 |
| Alex| | http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.ingres-commit.php#18450 | 10:26 |
| grantc | not sure where the basis for that comment came frome | 10:28 |
| grantc | mysql fetch the data into a buffer | 10:29 |
| grantc | where as we buffer from the server | 10:29 |
| grantc | the note has been deleted | 10:30 |
| Alex| | same here http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.ingres-num-fields.php#18448 | 10:32 |
| grantc | ta - rejected :) | 10:34 |
| grantc | the note not your remark | 10:34 |
| Alex| | :) | 10:34 |
| grantc | Alex|, have they put something in the water over there? | 11:12 |
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| troal01 | BTW Building Ingres without cygwin won't work, there are no good shells that I could find that would run the .sh file | 11:29 |
| troal01 | Jam tells me for building on Vista I NEED VS 2005 | 11:41 |
| Alex| | grantc, I'm sure... but why? | 11:46 |
| grantc | that's a very good question... | 11:46 |
| grantc | sorry - another school... another small arms demo | 11:47 |
| Alex| | ah, ok... I'm not up-to-date... but that's 'normal' copycat I guess... there were about a dozen bomb alarms in schools all over the place yesterday | 11:48 |
| grantc | kids these days... | 11:48 |
| Alex| | indeed | 11:49 |
| grantc | although from reading a few press reports no doubt they will blame violent video games... | 11:50 |
| Alex| | and blame twitter for bad journalism afterwards | 11:50 |
| troal01 | Always have to blame someone :) | 12:02 |
| withdefault | troal01, you need vs2005 because I think it requires some utility (MT) to build the manifest files for running on vista - You don't need to have it to build on vista - there is an MT environment variable in bldenv which you can unset | 12:10 |
| satanmalin | Sorry everyone does someone have a Vista iso cause i have to test easyIngres on vista and it seems that it doesnt work (was at a friend house and it doesn't work) | 12:14 |
| satanmalin | i have a license key official | 12:14 |
| satanmalin | but i need the iso | 12:15 |
| troal01 | thepiratebay.org | 12:15 |
| satanmalin | torrent is slow LOL | 12:15 |
| troal01 | Only if there are no seeders :0 | 12:15 |
| troal01 | :) | 12:15 |
| * grantc gets his big stick out | 12:15 | |
| SlimeyPete | piracy is probably a bad choice of topic for this channel ;) | 12:16 |
| satanmalin | but who can seed Vista ROFL | 12:16 |
| grantc | SlimeyPete, indeed | 12:16 |
| SlimeyPete | given that the channel's quite literally got Ingres' name plastered all over it | 12:16 |
| satanmalin | if i have a license | 12:16 |
| satanmalin | an official license | 12:16 |
| grantc | satanmalin, then you should have a legit copy | 12:16 |
| satanmalin | (an HP recovery yep but not a real install) | 12:17 |
| grantc | then your license is only an OEM | 12:17 |
| grantc | not a retail license | 12:17 |
| satanmalin | yep | 12:17 |
| satanmalin | but i only need a iso from an oem | 12:17 |
| troal01 | I don't think those licenses allow reinstalls etc | 12:17 |
| grantc | contact HP | 12:18 |
| grantc | troal01, they should but you need the recovery software | 12:18 |
| satanmalin | on XP it allow it | 12:18 |
| satanmalin | oki | 12:18 |
| satanmalin | so to be in a legal way | 12:18 |
| satanmalin | i cant have an iso ? | 12:18 |
| grantc | sometimes you have the option to buy the recovery software in physical form for the OS when you buy the computer | 12:19 |
| grantc | satanmalin, you won't get it from here | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | even if you have the license its bizarre | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | yep | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | oki | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | or doesn somene have vista | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | to test | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | easy ingres ? | 12:19 |
| satanmalin | and told me if it works or not | 12:20 |
| grantc | sorry - i only have XP machines, I don't have much use for vista | 12:22 |
| satanmalin | neither do I | 12:23 |
| satanmalin | LOL | 12:23 |
| satanmalin | only under torture i use vista | 12:23 |
| grantc | troal01 seems to have vista :) | 12:24 |
| troal01 | Vista isn't THAT bad, not anymore anyway... TBH I just don't care if I run XP or Vista, they're about the same in all categories (performance, annoyance etc) | 12:25 |
| troal01 | Vista Business 32 bit, the XP CD wouldn't recognize my partition set up :P | 12:25 |
| troal01 | But I guess that's to be expected of a 8 year old OS or whatnot | 12:25 |
| satanmalin | For having tested some machine on vista | 12:26 |
| satanmalin | a Quad core 4X2.66 and 4Gb of ram on vista slower than an dual core 2*3Ghz with 2Gb of ram | 12:27 |
| satanmalin | with the same softwares | 12:27 |
| satanmalin | on XP the dual | 12:27 |
| satanmalin | And the UAC is really boring | 12:28 |
| satanmalin | at the first use | 12:28 |
| satanmalin | etc. | 12:28 |
| satanmalin | thats why i prefer XP | 12:28 |
| satanmalin | indeed i prefer linux but | 12:29 |
| satanmalin | to make this project | 12:29 |
| satanmalin | i use XP | 12:29 |
| troal01 | I prefer Linux as well satanmalin :) | 12:30 |
| satanmalin | LOL | 12:30 |
| satanmalin | of course | 12:30 |
| troal01 | But sometimes I just HAVE to use Windows | 12:31 |
| troal01 | Plus I'm a PC Gamer too :P | 12:31 |
| satanmalin | LOL | 12:31 |
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| troal01 | grantc: Do you have the MSREDIST set up on your system? | 14:17 |
| troal01 | Wondering if it wouldn't be too much trouble to zip it up and mail it to me | 14:19 |
| satanmalin | Hi darylM | 14:39 |
| satanmalin | hi pboro | 14:40 |
| pboro | hi satanmalin | 14:40 |
| grantc | troal01, MSREDIST? | 15:16 |
| DarylM | Sigh. My Eclipse install went completely "belly up" after the last software update. | 15:27 |
| DarylM | Anyone else use Eclipse and find you have to reinstall it occasionally? | 15:32 |
| * grantc finds the solution is to just say "no" to eclipse | 15:34 | |
| grantc | :D | 15:34 |
| DarylM | :) | 15:34 |
| DarylM | Sadly, I volunteered to become a community activist. Eclipse is one of those. | 15:35 |
| * DarylM sorta like Xemacs and make. Stone age stuff | 15:35 | |
| grantc | I am sure eclipse is ok but I have never managed to go beyond a few hours before reverting to Vim | 15:36 |
| DarylM | It does work fine :) but I find I have to re-install every 2-3 months because something breaks and you can never figure out what. | 15:37 |
| grantc | i find the problem is you need to adapt to its way of working | 15:38 |
| grantc | which might be ok for java programmers or might be suited to the workflow of a java programmer | 15:39 |
| DarylM | Well, all tools with a level of sophistication require you to adapt to its way of working. So the trick is finding the tool that most closely matches your teams workflow. | 15:40 |
| grantc | my team and I are happy with Vim :) | 15:40 |
| DarylM | :-X | 15:40 |
| DarylM | Lets start an emacs vi war. That might be fun | 15:41 |
| DarylM | LoL | 15:41 |
| grantc | indeed - I have never used emacs apart from working out how to quit it... but I would give emacs more time than eclipse | 15:41 |
| * DarylM thinks back fondly to the editor religious wars | 15:42 | |
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| troal01 | grantc: still here? Yeah MSREDIST, the m*71.dlls | 18:29 |
| grantc | troal01, do you have an MSDN sub? | 18:36 |
| troal01 | Nope | 18:37 |
| grantc | ok let me see what i can do | 18:37 |
| troal01 | Thank you! | 18:38 |
| troal01 | Ever gotten these errors when running mkjams? http://ingres.pastebin.com/m3ec5f2ae | 18:44 |
| DerMeister | Perhaps you should run dos2unix on that script? | 18:50 |
| grantc | are you running the build from within bash? | 18:51 |
| troal01 | No from a cmd prompt as said in the wiki | 18:52 |
| DarylM | That is clearly a MessyDos/Unix incompatibility probably related to running in an emulation environment. | 18:54 |
| troal01 | That's what I was suspecting, would dos2unix fix it as DerMeister suggested? | 18:58 |
| withdefault | troal01, did you install cygwin with default unix file access or did you change it to CRLF dos translation? you should check that the the cygwin find command is the one being used and that egrep is an executable and not a link to grep | 18:58 |
| DarylM | It might fix it for now, but I expect it will be a recurring problem unless permanently fixed | 18:59 |
| troal01 | withdefault: I installed it with default unix file access I blieve, should it be CRLF dos transation? | 19:00 |
| withdefault | no | 19:03 |
| troal01 | Okay I made sure \cygwin\bin is first in PATH so it'll pick them up there | 19:09 |
| troal01 | egrep is an executable | 19:10 |
| troal01 | But still the error persists :( | 19:10 |
| withdefault | do you have USE_CYGWIN=TRUE in your environment? | 19:14 |
| troal01 | withdefault: I do | 19:14 |
| withdefault | are you on vista? | 19:15 |
| troal01 | Yes | 19:16 |
| withdefault | what does uname return | 19:16 |
| troal01 | CYGWIN_NT-6.0 | 19:16 |
| withdefault | ok, it should get picked up as an NT build | 19:17 |
| withdefault | can you try running with debug on the mkjams script | 19:21 |
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| troal01 | DEBUG=ON ... it's already set :( | 19:26 |
| withdefault | add a set -x into the %ING_SRC%\bin\mkjams file | 19:32 |
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| troal01 | Every empty line it gets angry because of \r, so why doesn't it ignore them? | 19:55 |
| troal01 | Heh DerMeister dos2unix seems to have worked | 20:15 |
| troal01 | Thank you | 20:15 |
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| troal01 | I get this error at the beginning: warning: unknown rule IITOUCH | 21:32 |
| troal01 | Also a lot of compiles fail due to this: C:\ingres2006-9.2.0-134-gpl-src\src\cl\hdr\hdr_win\bzarch.h(235) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'clsecret.h': No such file or directory | 21:33 |
| elPiola | afaik on Windows we don't use a clsecret.h | 21:36 |
| elPiola | it looks like it's picking up some wrong #define somewhere | 21:37 |
| troal01 | Hm | 21:37 |
| troal01 | The source package that you cna get from esd.ingres.com can be compiled on Windows right? | 21:37 |
| troal01 | I don't need a special source do I? | 21:37 |
| elPiola | I have no clue | 21:38 |
| troal01 | Well DarylM and grantc are both gone so I guess that puts a damper on my quest to compile Ingres on Windows today :) | 21:38 |
| troal01 | Maybe withdefault knows anything about those errors? | 21:38 |
| elPiola | iirc, that IITOUCH rule was removed so it looks like the source you have is old | 21:39 |
| withdefault | troal01, I'm not aware of any special source | 21:40 |
| troal01 | I got it from esd.ingres.com 9.2.0-b134 | 21:41 |
| troal01 | So not that old | 21:41 |
| elPiola | b134 is from June 2008 | 21:44 |
| withdefault | troal01, I've not tried building the source as downloaded or from the community repository | 21:47 |
| troal01 | Do you usually get the source from piccolo then? | 21:48 |
| withdefault | yes, I do | 21:48 |
| troal01 | Should there really be a difference to the packages though? | 21:55 |
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| withdefault | troal01, can you email me the output from one of the failed compilations? | 22:04 |
| troal01 | Alright withdefault once I get it I'll send it to you thanks! | 22:07 |
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