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| troal01 | Running your VM image on a separate HDD from your OS HDD sure speeds things up | 11:59 |
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| grantc | hello all - for those who use our svn server I have written a write up on getting started - http://community.ingres.com/wiki/Ingres_SVN_Repository - I would appreciate a once over | 12:04 |
| grantc | troal01, the -Sy option on pacman does what exactly? | 12:11 |
| troal01 | S for install (actually means synchronize), y for update local dbs | 12:12 |
| troal01 | In pacman you don't do pacman install or get or whatever, it's all getopts | 12:12 |
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| grantc | what does -y imply then? | 12:12 |
| troal01 | So -S for install, -Q for local query, -R for remove and so on | 12:12 |
| troal01 | Checks that your local db caches are up to date | 12:13 |
| troal01 | yum does that automatically | 12:13 |
| troal01 | It's equivalent to apt-get update | 12:13 |
| grantc | ok thanks | 12:13 |
| troal01 | Fixed one typo | 12:19 |
| troal01 | Is there even an SVN port for OpenVMS? | 12:19 |
| grantc | i think so - elPiola mentioned one some time ago its a Java app that supports svn | 12:20 |
| troal01 | Ah yes, that sounds familiar | 12:22 |
| elPiola | I've never used it. It was something rossand mentioned. I tried porting svn to VMS using GNV (GNV's not VMS) but it's very outdated so it wouldn't build properly | 12:25 |
| elPiola | grantc, on your new community page, I'm afraid the OpenVMS has to say "You're out of luck!" (unless rossand can prove otherwise) | 12:32 |
| grantc | :) | 12:32 |
| elPiola | the OpenVMS section, that is | 12:32 |
| grantc | it's SVNKit, according to google | 12:33 |
| grantc | I guess I should try it out since I tested out Mac and Windoze | 12:35 |
| elPiola | Wikipedia says "known to work ... on OpenVMS", but known to whom? | 12:37 |
| elPiola | svnkit's site says "reported to work on ... OpenVMS" ... | 12:38 |
| grantc | there are mentions of it on openvms.org and i found a forum post that complained about the performance | 12:38 |
| grantc | the wiki page now reads -There are no native Subersion binaries available for HP OpenVMS. However it might be possible to use http://svnkit.com. | 12:39 |
| elPiola | that sounds reasonable, but I won't try to test that | 12:40 |
| grantc | oh go on :) | 12:40 |
| elPiola | I find Java totally unappealing | 12:41 |
| grantc | that makes two of us | 12:41 |
| pboro | don't count me in! | 12:41 |
| grantc | although it looks like i might have to become the keeper of ingres!main!generic!front!demo!java | 12:42 |
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| troal01 | Anyone seen this error:mkfecat | 13:55 |
| troal01 | _MNXW actions too long (max 2046)! | 13:55 |
| troal01 | Building Ingres on Win XP | 13:55 |
| troal01 | Does it relate to jam and the maxline thing? | 14:14 |
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| troal01 | Okay that worked, fixing jam | 14:51 |
| troal01 | I'm gonna add that to the wikli | 14:51 |
| troal01 | haha it's already there | 14:52 |
| troal01 | That should teach me to read the full instructions | 14:52 |
| Alex| | troal01 | 15:13 |
| Alex| | I've just logged in to fosslc.org and got three huge "user warnings" with sql queries in it... | 15:14 |
| Alex| | Unknown column 'node.uid' in 'field list' query.... etc | 15:14 |
| rossand | Hi Alex| I'll discuss with you 1:1 to spare everyone. | 15:17 |
| NoeJeko | hey Alex| | 15:27 |
| Alex| | hi | 15:27 |
| NoeJeko | was our 9AM for just us or was that a reschedule of the thursday call? | 15:28 |
| Alex| | that was the one for us... the other with the sfdc consultant is on Thursday | 15:28 |
| NoeJeko | ack.. i declined that thinking this was a reschedule... heh | 15:28 |
| grantc | NoeJeko, any chance of getting that updated php driver in the wiki? My user page has a ' in it somewhere and every time I save i get that message :) | 15:40 |
| NoeJeko | umm... wiki uses 1.4.3 driver | 15:41 |
| grantc | yup - i mailed you a back port of the ingres_escape_string for 1.4 | 15:41 |
| NoeJeko | oh right | 15:42 |
| grantc | or you can "cvs co -r INGRES_1 pecl/ingres" | 15:42 |
| NoeJeko | eh i'll have to check and make sure the code calls escape_string() too | 15:43 |
| grantc | sure | 15:43 |
| NoeJeko | i need to mirror the production wiki onto my dev server - ive been running with a very old version of the wiki for quite some time | 15:44 |
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| mib_nynwpgk3 | Hi | 16:27 |
| mib_nynwpgk3 | everyone | 16:27 |
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| grantc | hi mib_nynwpgk3 | 16:28 |
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| satanmalin | sorry i dont know what happened | 16:32 |
| troal01 | I'm getting some can't find iilibadfdata.dll, what would cause that to fail building? | 16:38 |
| troal01 | This error is what comes up: error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _adu_utf8_unorm | 16:48 |
| elPiola | that usually indicates something missing from the .def files in port/defs_win | 16:50 |
| troal01 | What would cause something to be missing there? | 16:58 |
| troal01 | I downloaded a source package (9.2.0 b134) from esd.ingres.com | 16:58 |
| grantc | troal01, check iilibadf.def in that directory | 17:01 |
| troal01 | Okay so iilibadf.def does NOT have adu_utf8_unorm defined in there | 17:03 |
| grantc | bonro01 added it on 17-sep-08 | 17:03 |
| troal01 | I'll check SVN | 17:03 |
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| grantc | http://svn.ingres.com/browse/filedetails.php?repname=ingres&path=%2Fmain%2Fsrc%2Ftools%2Fport%2Fdefs_win%2Fiilibadf.def | 17:05 |
| troal01 | So why do we have a source package on esd.ingres.com that has to be hacked to compile properly? | 17:07 |
| grantc | troal01, i don't believe we ever said the source would build on windows | 17:07 |
| grantc | rather that tarball | 17:07 |
| troal01 | It's has the same b### as a win binary package | 17:07 |
| troal01 | Wouldn't that imply it should build? | 17:08 |
| grantc | there is no 134 label for windows | 17:08 |
| grantc | this is 9.2 right? if so ignore what i am saying | 17:09 |
| troal01 | Ah you're right | 17:09 |
| troal01 | 9.2 b134 has the source but not the binaries for win | 17:10 |
| troal01 | grantc: Do you have an Ingres source of 9.2 lyin garound that you KNOW builds on Win XP? | 17:11 |
| troal01 | If so I'd love to have it | 17:11 |
| grantc | the iilibadf.def shipped in the 134 tarball was the version prior to bonro01's change to add adu_utf8_unorm | 17:11 |
| grantc | err | 17:11 |
| grantc | i only have a 9.1 on my windows box | 17:12 |
| troal01 | Ahh | 17:12 |
| troal01 | Suddenly I don't trust the src packages on esd.ingres.com and don't feel like trying 9.3 cuz it might not work and waste another few hours on it | 17:13 |
| grantc | ask bonro01 nicely he might be able to pull a label for you | 17:13 |
| grantc | the GA label for instance... | 17:14 |
| troal01 | That would be very nice | 17:14 |
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| grantc | or get yourself a piccolo environment setup | 17:14 |
| troal01 | Were is that piccolo wiki again? | 17:15 |
| grantc | google is your friend :) | 17:15 |
| satanmalin | grantc mays i ask you a question ? | 17:19 |
| grantc | sure | 17:19 |
| troal01 | I thought that piccolo wiki was on the internal one | 17:19 |
| satanmalin | we have a prob on eqsy ingres | 17:19 |
| grantc | troal01, i gave out a link here so there should be a reference in the logs | 17:19 |
| satanmalin | when a second instance of ingres is still install on the nmachine | 17:19 |
| DerMeister | By the way, is anyone using piccolo voluntarily? :) | 17:20 |
| satanmalin | php have a prob in the path | 17:20 |
| grantc | DerMeister, if you want to be in the CEP yes :) | 17:20 |
| grantc | or WEP... | 17:20 |
| DerMeister | CEP? What's that? | 17:20 |
| grantc | Continued Employment Plan | 17:20 |
| grantc | Piccolo is ok ... it's not as easy to setup as say SVN or git or.. but it does more stuff | 17:21 |
| DerMeister | Ah, well... Doesn't matter for me then :) | 17:21 |
| grantc | :) | 17:21 |
| grantc | satanmalin, what path do you have? | 17:21 |
| satanmalin | the path in the php settings variable Use the other instance | 17:22 |
| satanmalin | D:\Program Files\Ingres\IngresBB\ingres\bin;D:\Program Files\Ingres\IngresBB\ingres\utility;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WbemC:\PROGRA~1\CA\SHARED~1\SCANEN~1;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\DLLShared\;d:\program files\easyingres\ingres\bin;d:\program files\easyingres\ingres\utility;d:\program files\easyingres\php | 17:22 |
| grantc | your only option is to put your ingres before ingresBB in the path | 17:22 |
| satanmalin | yep but the probs is | 17:23 |
| satanmalin | you install easyingres | 17:23 |
| satanmalin | without rebbooting the machine | 17:23 |
| satanmalin | the path is good | 17:23 |
| satanmalin | we can load without problem the demo (with the flight airport etc) | 17:24 |
| satanmalin | once rebooted | 17:24 |
| satanmalin | you have the path ill give you | 17:24 |
| satanmalin | D:\Program Files\Ingres\IngresBB\ingres\bin;D:\Program Files\Ingres\IngresBB\ingres\utility;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WbemC:\PROGRA~1\CA\SHARED~1\SCANEN~1;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\DLLShared\;d:\program files\easyingres\ingres\bin;d:\program files\easyingres\ingres\utility;d:\program files\easyingres\php | 17:25 |
| satanmalin | the problem is so that once rebooted the machine loose the path or made a mistake with the php path | 17:26 |
| grantc | where do you set the path after install? | 17:26 |
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| satanmalin | i send you by mail the bat installer | 17:27 |
| grantc | ok | 17:27 |
| satanmalin | jus if it can help | 17:28 |
| satanmalin | on a machine without Ingres installed | 17:28 |
| satanmalin | it works after the reboot without probs | 17:28 |
| satanmalin | it is sent | 17:32 |
| satanmalin | did you get it? | 17:33 |
| grantc | not yet | 17:34 |
| satanmalin | is it the same adress ? | 17:35 |
| satanmalin | grant.yourname@ingresdotcom | 17:35 |
| satanmalin | ? | 17:36 |
| grantc | yup | 17:36 |
| grantc | or grantc@php.net | 17:36 |
| grantc | if you have sent a .bat file, try renaming it to .txt | 17:37 |
| satanmalin | sent it to php .net now | 17:39 |
| grantc | got it | 17:41 |
| satanmalin | ok | 17:41 |
| grantc | the problem you have is the environment settings are not being kept | 17:41 |
| grantc | which you already know | 17:41 |
| grantc | but there is nothing in your script to update the system path/II_SYSTEM so it is kept after a reboot | 17:42 |
| satanmalin | yep but why ? And its only when you have Ingres still onstalled on the machine | 17:42 |
| grantc | opingsvc installs the ingres path at the end of the current PATH value | 17:43 |
| grantc | so if you have another installation you will come after that... | 17:43 |
| satanmalin | and why does it work without reooting | 17:43 |
| satanmalin | rebooting ? | 17:43 |
| grantc | because your environment was temporarily set in the script | 17:43 |
| satanmalin | oki | 17:43 |
| satanmalin | so how can I do ? | 17:44 |
| satanmalin | and how must I do ? | 17:44 |
| grantc | how does apache run? as a service? | 17:44 |
| satanmalin | yep | 17:44 |
| satanmalin | all run as services | 17:44 |
| satanmalin | ingres and apache | 17:44 |
| grantc | your only option is to update the system path so easy ingres comes first | 17:45 |
| satanmalin | and how to do it ? | 17:45 |
| satanmalin | manually ? | 17:45 |
| grantc | however if i were to install easy ingres and it did it i would be p1$$ed off | 17:45 |
| satanmalin | LOL | 17:45 |
| grantc | progmatically - | 17:45 |
| grantc | via a program | 17:45 |
| satanmalin | yep i understood | 17:45 |
| satanmalin | and do you have somwhere the magical spell ? | 17:46 |
| satanmalin | the magical command ? | 17:46 |
| grantc | no | 17:47 |
| satanmalin | simple question if i do this the person who install easy ingres can manually reset the path correctly ? | 17:47 |
| satanmalin | after or not | 17:47 |
| satanmalin | ? | 17:47 |
| grantc | ? | 17:47 |
| satanmalin | if i find the magical command | 17:47 |
| satanmalin | to be more accurate inmy question | 17:48 |
| satanmalin | you said | 17:48 |
| satanmalin | however if i were to install easy ingres and it did it i would be p1$$ed off | 17:48 |
| grantc | indeed - i don't like programs that change my existing setup | 17:48 |
| satanmalin | to make you not p1$$ed of LOL you can change the path | 17:48 |
| grantc | ingres did it for a long time | 17:48 |
| satanmalin | oki | 17:48 |
| satanmalin | of course | 17:49 |
| satanmalin | but in that case .. | 17:49 |
| grantc | the easiest solution is to add it to the documentation | 17:49 |
| satanmalin | and the best one is ? the same solution ? | 17:49 |
| grantc | state that if you already have an ingres installation you will need to manually modify the II_SYSTEM and PATH environment settings | 17:50 |
| satanmalin | oki | 17:50 |
| satanmalin | thanks | 17:51 |
| satanmalin | sorry grant for my supid questions | 17:51 |
| satanmalin | stupid | 17:51 |
| satanmalin | questions | 17:51 |
| grantc | they're not stupid questions - the way windows environment variable work is not too clever. When it comes to Windows Services it becomes even less clever.... | 17:53 |
| satanmalin | ROFL | 17:53 |
| satanmalin | LOL | 17:53 |
| satanmalin | windows is not too clever | 17:53 |
| satanmalin | neither the environment nor the rest of this OS | 17:54 |
| grantc | or i should say less obvious since it is all about context | 17:54 |
| grantc | Windows is OK | 17:54 |
| satanmalin | OK or KO ? | 17:56 |
| grantc | it's ok | 17:57 |
| satanmalin | why not | 18:04 |
| satanmalin | if you say so | 18:04 |
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