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| Gerhard | Hi all | 00:42 |
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| Gerhard | Any way to create system catalog iiviews in case it is missing in a db? | 00:46 |
| grantc | missing? how? | 00:47 |
| grantc | i guess you can access the db in question using "sql +U dbname" and then add the missing view | 00:49 |
| Gerhard | A customers server had a hardware problem. Unfortunately, database was not checkpointed / journaled. Customer did a verifydb ... -o force_consistent... | 00:50 |
| Gerhard | Now we want to copy out / copy in whole db but copydb / unloaddb says "iiviews missing..." | 00:50 |
| grantc | the quel in http://ingres.pastebin.com/m5b997d27 will create the view for you | 00:51 |
| Gerhard | What would be the correct "create view..." statement to recreate the iiviews view, I could not find it in old copy.in files... | 00:53 |
| Gerhard | Oh sorry, will look in the pastebin... | 00:53 |
| Gerhard | I saved the code in the pastebin to a file repair.sql and then did... | 00:57 |
| Gerhard | ...sql -u$ingres dbname < repair.sql | 00:57 |
| grantc | you need to use the "+U" flag | 00:57 |
| Gerhard | screen output: You are in a transaction. Do you wish to abort your transaction and quit? | 00:58 |
| Gerhard | will try +U | 00:58 |
| grantc | also add "end transaction" to your sql file | 00:59 |
| grantc | or "\sql;commit\g" | 00:59 |
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| Gerhard | Now a copydb will result in errlog.log messages "error getting a record ... from iirelation", so obviously physical problem with iirelation | 01:07 |
| Gerhard | Any chance to repair ii* catalogs with verifydb? | 01:07 |
| grantc | you can try - it could be your disk is fscked? | 01:08 |
| grantc | take a back first before running verifydb | 01:08 |
| grantc | also check errlog.log | 01:08 |
| grantc | also raise an issue with support as they may have come across something like this before... | 01:08 |
| Gerhard | server is a Windows machine, not Linux | 01:08 |
| grantc | fscked = trouble :) | 01:10 |
| grantc | or screwed... | 01:10 |
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| Dejan | good morning | 02:39 |
| grantc | morning | 02:42 |
| Dejan | when is 9.3 stable going to be released? | 04:19 |
| grantc | i don't know - your best bet is to email info@ingres.com | 04:21 |
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| * Dejan loves Ingres | 05:42 | |
| Dejan | Ingres makes me happy | 05:42 |
| Dejan | :D | 05:42 |
| atrofast | We should start selling Ingres as a happy pill then :D | 05:56 |
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| thiagomz | guys, anyone has a view of the ingres architecture, i am trying understand dmf memory, group, etc... | 06:04 |
| atrofast | thiagomz: Did you read this: http://community.ingres.com/wiki/A_Short_Excursion_Through_The_Ingres_Back-End#Utility_Facility_.28ULF.29 | 06:05 |
| thiagomz | atrofast: tkz | 06:05 |
| atrofast | minus the #Utility_Facility_.28ULF.29 | 06:05 |
| thiagomz | atrofast: i am looking for something like that -> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2862960124_eaa0443ec0.jpg | 06:11 |
| atrofast | Ahhh thiagomz a diagram, hmm I think I've seen something like that but I can't remember where | 06:13 |
| thiagomz | atrofast: my english.. sorry | 06:14 |
| thiagomz | :D | 06:14 |
| atrofast | No worries :) | 06:14 |
| atrofast | My first language isn't English either | 06:15 |
| Dejan | i would like to know what "K Join" and "T join" are, in the QEP | 06:17 |
| Dejan | from a newbie perspective, it would be IMHO more useful to have EXPLAIN like in PGSQL | 06:18 |
| Dejan | (maybe ingres has it but i am not aware of it) | 06:18 |
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| Dejan | we are many | 06:25 |
| Dejan | :D | 06:25 |
| Gerhard | Hi all | 06:26 |
| atrofast | I believe K Join is a key join and T Join is a table join | 06:26 |
| Dejan | hi Gerhard | 06:30 |
| Dejan | what i like in EXPLAIN in PGSQL is that it gives times | 06:30 |
| Dejan | for each operation | 06:30 |
| Dejan | it is IMHO very useful | 06:30 |
| Dejan | as it shows bottlenecks | 06:31 |
| Gerhard | Anybody having experiences with making Ingres portable / USB-stick-enabled? Stumbled upon this ...http://www.rationalcommerce.com/mojopac.htm | 06:32 |
| atrofast | Dejan: if you do set tracepoint qe90 you will get some more cost information | 06:33 |
| Dejan | atrofast: where can i get information about available tracepoints? | 06:37 |
| atrofast | Dejan: http://www.kbcomputer.com/trace_pts.html | 06:40 |
| Dejan | atrofast: i get the same QEP | 06:40 |
| Dejan | with and without set tracepoint qe90 | 06:40 |
| Dejan | :( | 06:41 |
| Dejan | Gerhard: mojopac simply just hosts OS | 06:41 |
| Dejan | i have Fedora on my USB stick | 06:41 |
| Dejan | ingres can work pretty well on it | 06:41 |
| Gerhard | Yes, I know it's possible to have bootable OS on a stick, but that's not what I thought of. | 06:43 |
| Gerhard | I mainly use Windows as a platform and for testing purposes have to switch between different Ingres Rels. / patch levels which means having to built zillions of VMs | 06:46 |
| Dejan | a box with linux and virtualbox would do | 06:49 |
| Dejan | i suppose | 06:49 |
| Dejan | my test servers are all on a Dell Equalogic 4500 | 06:49 |
| Dejan | it is a sexy rack with Xen installed | 06:50 |
| Dejan | comes with Xen centre | 06:50 |
| Dejan | awesome stuff | 06:50 |
| atrofast | grantc: is libq supposed to be linked with librt and somebody accidentally removed it or what was happening therE? Because I get the same issues with libgeos in the geospatial branch | 06:50 |
| Gerhard | So I want something like that ... http://portable-apps.net/portable-apps-tag/mysql ... but without the apache / PHP thingie and with Ingres instead of MySQL. | 06:51 |
| Dejan | it is not linked against librt here on my machine | 06:51 |
| atrofast | Ingres 9.2 has libq.1.so linked against librt | 06:52 |
| atrofast | But anything newer seems to remove that link | 06:52 |
| Dejan | ah... | 06:54 |
| Dejan | something that would work straight... | 06:54 |
| Dejan | basically it is the same like MySQL ZIP binary distribution | 06:54 |
| Dejan | you unzip it, and it runs straight | 06:55 |
| Dejan | Gerhard: did you try to ZIP the Ingres folder, and make a script which will just simply reconfigure a new copy? | 06:55 |
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| toumi01 | atrofast: re librt see this copy of a recent piccolo integration http://ingres.pastebin.com/m3b6f5e5f | 06:56 |
| Gerhard | Dejan: could be a good starting point, will try. | 06:56 |
| Gerhard | Maybe will also try with app virtualization like Thinstall or XEN Virtual Application Studio, unfortunately both not free. | 06:59 |
| grantc | atrofast, libcompat is suppoed to be linked against librt | 06:59 |
| atrofast | grantc, toumi01 okay, but libcompat does not link against it in the SVN version :) | 07:02 |
| atrofast | Also since we're using two new libs, should those be linked with libcompat in our branch? | 07:03 |
| Dejan | it is not linked in 10.x-105 | 07:03 |
| atrofast | Is that the right way to go about it | 07:03 |
| toumi01 | the librt option seems to be there in the head revision main svn repository | 07:05 |
| Dejan | i was looking at UK IUA Development Sprint 2009 | 07:47 |
| Dejan | there are some very nice things done there | 07:47 |
| Dejan | like: ckpdb --compression=bzip2 <dbname> | 07:47 |
| Dejan | i want that | 07:47 |
| Dejan | ASAP | 07:47 |
| pboro | you can have it by modifying ckp template :) | 07:47 |
| Dejan | really? | 07:48 |
| pboro | though it would not be a parameter then but would use bzip2 anyways | 07:48 |
| Dejan | omg imust make it | 07:48 |
| Dejan | or: | 07:48 |
| pboro | check cktmpl.def under files dir | 07:48 |
| Dejan | sql iidbdb | 07:48 |
| Dejan | create database <dbname>; | 07:48 |
| Dejan | that is also nice | 07:48 |
| Dejan | i wonder would Ingres benefit of using CUDA... | 08:20 |
| Dejan | and do some parallel query processing using separate cores | 08:21 |
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| thiagomz | guys, are there a way to get the time of execution of a sql that triggers a lot of rules... i want to known what is my poor query in a processes... | 11:49 |
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