| pboro | http://www.fixel.org/ingres/readme.txt | 00:19 |
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| pboro | I'll post some info later on the community forums too | 00:19 |
| pboro | I could also add running the tests, just have to figure how :) | 00:23 |
| pboro | is it possible to install from the build without packaging? | 00:27 |
| pboro | ah, createdbms could do it... | 00:29 |
| pboro | looks pretty simple, I'll try adding test runs to the nightly build | 00:31 |
| grantc | pboro, nice work | 01:06 |
| grantc | i assume fixel is your box? | 01:09 |
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| grantc | ah i see, you build it offsite then upload | 01:30 |
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| PaulM05 | pboro: just seen your nightly build stuff on the IRC logs - nice work | 01:35 |
| pboro | grantc, it is | 01:41 |
| pboro | grantc, yup, I don't like doing builds on a production system :) | 01:41 |
| pboro | PaulM05, thanks, I'm currently looking into getting the test running too and uploading the log on the web | 01:41 |
| pboro | tests even | 01:42 |
| PaulM05 | that would be cool | 01:42 |
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| PaulM05 | what would be nice is if people who tried it give feedback so we get an idea when a particular build is stable etc. | 01:44 |
| PaulM05 | perhaps ask people to post on the forums | 01:45 |
| pboro | ahh, tests require a number of user accounts to be created... | 01:51 |
| PaulM05 | yeah | 01:52 |
| PaulM05 | is that going to be a problem? | 01:52 |
| grantc | Or pboro could write a script to post to a blog/twitter allowing those who are interested to keep up to date | 01:52 |
| pboro | PaulM05, on the current server yes, but if I'll arrange a separate virtual server for it then no... but it will take some time | 01:53 |
| PaulM05 | grantc: sure but I was trying not to scare him off yet :) | 01:53 |
| pboro | :D | 01:53 |
| grantc | i'd be happy to supply the blog system :) | 01:53 |
| grantc | although that's a minor part of the puzzle | 01:54 |
| pboro | hmm actually a new build every night doesn't make much sense, I should change the script to use svn revision some how | 01:55 |
| grantc | Vroomfondle, can you tell me what the output is from "file `which php`" on your solaris box | 01:56 |
| pboro | grantc, hmm like automatically posting a new message to a blog when a new build is completed and published? or what was the idea :) | 01:57 |
| grantc | yup - perhaps with a link to build log | 01:57 |
| pboro | ah, yeah | 01:58 |
| pboro | I'll have to think about that later, next I'm going to test whether changeset 2613 fixes http://bugs.ingres.com/ticket/551 | 01:59 |
| Vroomfondle | grantc: ELF 32-bit MSB executable SPARC32PLUS Version 1, V8+ Required, dynamically linked, not stripped | 02:02 |
| Vroomfondle | I have however just done an "ls -alt" on it | 02:02 |
| Vroomfondle | and noticed that the date is Nov 4th | 02:02 |
| Vroomfondle | our admin has rebuilt PHP twice since then | 02:02 |
| Vroomfondle | I wonder if he's neglected to rebuild the standalone binary, somehow | 02:03 |
| Vroomfondle | (presumably that might matter) | 02:03 |
| grantc | "ELF 32-bit MSB executable SPARC Version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped" is what i see | 02:03 |
| grantc | afaik i built it using the SUNWspro compiler | 02:04 |
| grantc | pboro, do you see any merit to tweeting the commits in ingres/main? | 02:07 |
| pboro | grantc, since it's possible to follow them via RSS, not really | 02:09 |
| grantc | which feed do you use? bugs.ingres.com or code.ingres.com/browse? | 02:09 |
| pboro | code.ingres.com one | 02:09 |
| Vroomfondle | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 25 Oct 30 13:53 /usr/bin/cc -> /opt/sunstudio12.1/bin/cc | 02:12 |
| Vroomfondle | I presume that's what was used. | 02:12 |
| grantc | pboro, ok... perhaps when i get a moment i might add the rss feed to twitter but it can wait. | 02:16 |
| grantc | Vroomfondle, hmm | 02:17 |
| grantc | cc -V gives "cc: Sun WorkShop 6 update 2 C 5.3 2001/05/15" ... perhaps i'd better find another machine | 02:18 |
| pboro | rather old :D | 02:18 |
| grantc | pre-historic :) | 02:19 |
| Vroomfondle | heh | 02:19 |
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| Dejan | hello everybody | 03:42 |
| PaulM05 | hi | 03:42 |
| Dejan | PaulM05: are you one of the people who hold courses in Slaugh? | 03:43 |
| PaulM05 | I am in Slough but I don't do courses | 03:44 |
| PaulM05 | do you need to contact someone in training? | 03:44 |
| Dejan | i am thinking about taking "Managing Ingres Installations and Databases" course | 03:45 |
| PaulM05 | sounds good | 03:46 |
| PaulM05 | if you do you'll have to pop along and say hello | 03:49 |
| Vroomfondle | bring your own coffee | 03:49 |
| Vroomfondle | (unless they've replaced that horrible Flavia machine ;) ) | 03:49 |
| PaulM05 | dunno - we have to make our own | 03:50 |
| Dejan | Vroomfondle: are you in Slaugh too? :) | 03:50 |
| Vroomfondle | Dejan: no, but I've been there on a course | 03:50 |
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| Vroomfondle | I did ABF/Vision there. I remember Mike Flower (?) doing his very best to make it seem like exciting forward-thinking technology :D | 03:52 |
| PaulM05 | and suffered the coffee | 03:52 |
| Vroomfondle | yeah | 03:52 |
| Vroomfondle | and the lack of working toilets (but I assume that was a temporary problem ;) ) | 03:52 |
| PaulM05 | lots of sites still using lots of ABF - it's like the COBOL of the Ingres world | 03:52 |
| Dejan | we use ABF here too | 03:55 |
| Dejan | still | 03:56 |
| Dejan | that is why I am hired - to replace ABF application(s) with Java ones | 03:56 |
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| PaulM05 | that's interesting - do you find you have a lot of re-useable code? | 04:00 |
| atrofast | Is that one of those jobs where you work yourself out of one Dejan? | 04:01 |
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| Vroomfondle | we use about a million lines of ABF | 04:04 |
| Vroomfondle | but we're moving away from it over the coming years | 04:05 |
| Vroomfondle | as someone who was educated in using languages with relatively rich APIs, it was a bit of a shock to the system... | 04:06 |
| Dejan | Vroomfondle: where do you live if I may ask? :) | 04:15 |
| Vroomfondle | Canterbury | 04:16 |
| Dejan | i've never been there | 04:17 |
| Dejan | must be a nice place | 04:17 |
| Dejan | UK is nice over there | 04:17 |
| Vroomfondle | yeah, Canterbury's quite nice | 04:17 |
| Vroomfondle | relatively quite, and it's got some history. | 04:17 |
| Vroomfondle | *quiet | 04:18 |
| Vroomfondle | Slough on the other end is basically a big toilet ;) | 04:18 |
| Vroomfondle | *other hand | 04:18 |
| * Vroomfondle can't string a sentence together today >.< | 04:18 | |
| Dejan | :D | 04:19 |
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| PaulM05 | Dejan: I just spoke with Mike Flower (as I was passing) are you thinking of doing the course in 3 weeks time? | 04:20 |
| PaulM05 | 22nd March? | 04:20 |
| Dejan | PaulM05: i am thinking about asking my boss, yes | 04:21 |
| Dejan | are there free places for it? | 04:21 |
| PaulM05 | yes | 04:21 |
| Dejan | and it was lik£3k or so? | 04:21 |
| PaulM05 | in fact he was wondering whether we had enough people to run it - 1 more person would make it definite | 04:21 |
| PaulM05 | don't know about prices | 04:22 |
| PaulM05 | email education@ingres.com for more info if you need it | 04:22 |
| PaulM05 | Vroomfondle - was it more than a year ago that you came on a course? | 04:23 |
| Vroomfondle | must've been about two years ago I should think | 04:23 |
| PaulM05 | ah - in that case it would have been the old building - now I understand about the coffee machine and the toilets | 04:24 |
| Vroomfondle | I'd been using ABF for about 14 months or so when my boss suddenly decided that I should go on a course to learn how to use ABF | 04:24 |
| Vroomfondle | ah, you've moved? | 04:24 |
| PaulM05 | abot half a mile down the road | 04:24 |
| Vroomfondle | I remember a big ghostly office-block which spoke of glories past. | 04:24 |
| PaulM05 | well the Council moved in and took it over | 04:25 |
| Vroomfondle | ah | 04:25 |
| PaulM05 | but I know what you mean | 04:25 |
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| Dejan | is there a way to gracefully flush everything in iidbms without actually restarting it? | 04:33 |
| Dejan | i want it start from a clean slate every morning | 04:34 |
| PaulM05 | not really - you can flush various memory pools | 04:34 |
| PaulM05 | but I'm not sure it's "graceful" | 04:35 |
| PaulM05 | you could close the current DBMS to new connections and start a new one | 04:35 |
| PaulM05 | so the current one will stop gracefully when the last connection closes | 04:36 |
| PaulM05 | brb - going to get some "terrible" coffee ;) | 04:37 |
| Dejan | khm | 04:37 |
| Dejan | thanks PaulM05 | 04:37 |
| Dejan | that is actually a good way | 04:37 |
| PaulM05 | you'll need to make sure you define them as having shared cache | 04:40 |
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| * grantc wonders how Vroomfondle ever got PHP built | 05:17 | |
| grantc | i'm now hitting http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=17802 | 05:17 |
| Vroomfondle | hmm | 05:27 |
| Vroomfondle | well, our admin built it for me in the end | 05:27 |
| Dejan | grantc: O/ | 05:28 |
| Dejan | ido that often | 05:28 |
| grantc | i'm trying to get hold of a machine that has a recent compiler installed and is patched up | 05:28 |
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| Dejan | welcome to the club | 05:29 |
| Mud | you guys are all DB admins? | 05:30 |
| Dejan | no | 05:30 |
| grantc | Mud no - we're a mixed bunch - some developers and dbas | 05:31 |
| Mud | hehe | 05:31 |
| Mud | ke :P | 05:31 |
| Dejan | 2/3 developer 1/3 dba | 05:31 |
| Mud | :> | 05:31 |
| Mud | I am a network admin/system admin/db admin/whatever | 05:32 |
| Mud | hehe :P | 05:32 |
| Mud | I handle everything :+ | 05:32 |
| Vroomfondle | I do development work and try to advise our DBAs without going so far as to take on any official DBA responsibilities ;) | 05:35 |
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