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| troal01 | Anyone tried this? http://www.openchange.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=74 | 10:26 |
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| grantc | nope - is it complete yet? | 10:29 |
| SlimeyPete | odd choice of target email client | 10:30 |
| grantc | they don't have any packages in the SuSE buildservice - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/msuman:/evolution-mapi-provider/ | 10:30 |
| SlimeyPete | though I suppose it's pre-installed on Redhat & Ubuntu | 10:30 |
| grantc | SlimeyPete, it's one of those holy grails for the open-sauce crowd, Exchange interoperability | 10:30 |
| SlimeyPete | indeed | 10:31 |
| SlimeyPete | I would kill for it | 10:31 |
| SlimeyPete | literally kill | 10:31 |
| SlimeyPete | atm I have to use a Windows VM to read our departmental calendar | 10:31 |
| * grantc removes all sharp implements from SlimeyPete's desk | 10:31 | |
| SlimeyPete | and I have to use Exchange's IMAP service with Thunderbird, and it is *awful*. Horribly slow, unreliable, and randomly drops emails / fails to deliver them for hours | 10:32 |
| grantc | SlimeyPete, I use t-bird with our exchange servers over IMAP. considering I am working from home it seems to work ok | 10:32 |
| SlimeyPete | it might depend on the version of Exchange | 10:33 |
| grantc | i believe our server(s) are located somewhere in the US | 10:33 |
| SlimeyPete | ours seems to work badly. | 10:33 |
| grantc | could not say what version we use - all i know is that the evolution-exchange setup is a bit crashy | 10:34 |
| SlimeyPete | Evolution's a bit crashy in general in my experience | 10:34 |
| SlimeyPete | which is a shame 'cos otherwise it's not a bad email client. | 10:34 |
| grantc | yup - i guess it would be nice to have the calendaring as well. Its a shame no one has come up with a tbird plugin to read the Calendar folder under IMAP for use within lightning | 10:36 |
| grantc | btw i am using 3.0b1 of tbird which seems to behave a lot better than 2.0 | 10:38 |
| grantc | at least for the folder searching | 10:39 |
| troal01 | The OpenChange/Evolution package is going to be included in Fedora 11 | 10:51 |
| troal01 | Gnome 2.26 will come pre-packaged with it so whatever distro defaults to 2.26 will also have it I suppose | 10:51 |
| troal01 | Fedora 11 will also default to ext4 file system | 10:51 |
| troal01 | Should be interesting | 10:51 |
| grantc | "interesting" is also considered to be a curse | 10:52 |
| troal01 | Only if you try to run "interesting" as a production system... It's perfectly fine for playing around with ;) | 10:54 |
| grantc | hmmm . a couple of summers ago I used SuSE factory (running with knives edition) as my desktop, which was fine until they borked a kernel update which happend to be missing the modules for LVM | 10:56 |
| troal01 | Wow ouch... running with knives indeed | 10:59 |
| grantc | yup - i would be more worried about testing out a new filesystem | 11:00 |
| troal01 | Yeah, if I do an upgrade Fedora 10->11 I think I'll opt for ext3 | 11:00 |
| troal01 | But I might do a clean install with ext4... They also put in experimental support for the btrfs file system... Don't know a whole lot about it | 11:01 |
| troal01 | To activate it you pass the "icantbelieveitsnotbtr" to the installer | 11:01 |
| troal01 | Not sure if non North Americans will get that :D | 11:01 |
| SlimeyPete | We have I Can't Believe It's Not Butter in the UK too ;) | 11:37 |
| grantc | according to the interweb it came to the UK 5 years after it arrived in the US - http://www.unilever.co.uk/ourbrands/foods/icantbelieveitsnotbutter.asp | 11:40 |
| troal01 | Okay that's good to know :) | 11:42 |
| grantc | don't you feel enriched :) | 11:43 |
| troal01 | I sure do! | 11:43 |
| SlimeyPete | I'm an Olivio fan, myself ;) | 11:43 |
| * grantc wonders where this is going | 11:44 | |
| SlimeyPete | I dunno, but I'm getting hungry | 11:44 |
| grantc | :) | 11:45 |
| troal01 | Someone is having sandwiches for lunch | 11:45 |
| * grantc is thinking about a nice healthy spanish lunch of pisto con huevo frito y patatas | 11:47 | |
| troal01 | something fried with potatoes? | 11:48 |
| * troal01 doesn't speak a word of Spanish | 11:48 | |
| grantc | pisto is a tomato sauce with courgettes | 11:48 |
| grantc | aka pisto manchego which also has peppers, the rest is fried egg and chips or freedom fries | 11:49 |
| troal01 | Here in Canada we call them french fries :) | 11:50 |
| troal01 | Or just fries for short | 11:50 |
| grantc | ;) | 11:50 |
| troal01 | But that sounds yummy, send some my way | 11:51 |
| grantc | it's not too difficult to make, the most complicated bit is the pisto (or pesto as it is known in italian) | 11:52 |
| grantc | even Jamie oliver has a good recipe for the tomato sauce | 11:52 |
| troal01 | Hehe even Jamie Oliver | 11:55 |
| grantc | on another note - CCTV in your local? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/17/met_cctv/ | 11:56 |
| grantc | big brother in the UK | 11:56 |
| troal01 | That's a bit worse than here... The last uproar in Ottawa was when the police tried to install CCTV in the parks | 12:00 |
| troal01 | I do get photo graphed and finger printed every time I go to the US since I'm a European citizen though | 12:00 |
| grantc | but that's where it ends... | 12:00 |
| grantc | at the border.. | 12:01 |
| grantc | do you have to keep your ID card up to date? | 12:01 |
| troal01 | ID card? I have a passport and a driver's license | 12:01 |
| troal01 | Both renews every five years | 12:01 |
| grantc | which country are you from in the €U? | 12:02 |
| troal01 | I have Swedish citizenship | 12:06 |
| troal01 | So my passport is Swedish/European Union | 12:06 |
| troal01 | But my driver's license is Ontario/Canada | 12:06 |
| grantc | do the Swedish not have ID cards? cannot remember... | 12:07 |
| troal01 | Not that I can remember | 12:07 |
| grantc | fair enough | 12:07 |
| troal01 | I think there were optional ID cards you could acquire through your bank | 12:08 |
| grantc | here in Spain I have to carry some form of official ID at all times | 12:08 |
| grantc | so Passport or residence card (as is my case) | 12:08 |
| troal01 | Ah really, that's kind of uncomfortable... | 12:08 |
| troal01 | What if you're a tourist? Passport? | 12:08 |
| grantc | yup | 12:08 |
| grantc | i got a passport just before i started making longer trips here, to look at it you would think it is about to expire... | 12:09 |
| grantc | the ID card i have is the same size as a credit card | 12:09 |
| grantc | it's the norm here that if you pay for something by credit card they want to see ID... | 12:10 |
| grantc | go to the bank and they want to see ID ... | 12:10 |
| troal01 | Quite a bit tougher than here in Canada | 12:10 |
| troal01 | I don't even have to show ID at the liquor store :) | 12:11 |
| grantc | it's not that big a deal | 12:11 |
| troal01 | I guess I look old enough | 12:11 |
| grantc | :) | 12:11 |
| troal01 | I remember last time I was in Sweden if I used my credit card without the PIN I had to show ID | 12:11 |
| grantc | there was one time I was working with a client in New Hampshire and they asked to see the ID for some guy in a hotel bar who was 50+ | 12:11 |
| troal01 | Heh | 12:11 |
| troal01 | Might've been a disguise | 12:12 |
| grantc | he was not best pleased, my how we laughed | 12:12 |
| troal01 | That's just silly haha | 12:12 |
| grantc | sure, i got carded a lot when I was living in Georgia but that was to be expected.. | 12:12 |
| troal01 | Oh you've lived in Georgia? How was that? | 12:13 |
| grantc | Uni exchange program | 12:13 |
| troal01 | Cool, for how long? | 12:15 |
| grantc | just a year | 12:15 |
| grantc | but because of that one year I am where I am today (for better or worse) | 12:16 |
| troal01 | What were you taking? Computer science? | 12:22 |
| grantc | CS degree in the UK which happened to have two spots for an exchange program with Georgia College (now GCSU) | 12:23 |
| grantc | The second year of the degree was there, with a 3rd on placement/internship at CA/Ingres | 12:24 |
| troal01 | Ah so that's how you got in with Ingres... Have you worked here since? | 12:24 |
| grantc | kind of, placement degrees in the UK are known as sandwich courses as they wrap industry experience with education, after 13 months of working I did my final year and then came back to CA | 12:25 |
| grantc | as it happened a bunch of people left CA from the Ingres team just before I finished my course so I was able to go back otherwise I would have needed to find a proper job, so to speak | 12:28 |
| troal01 | Hehe proper job | 12:29 |
| grantc | i kind of walked in to the job.. as a placement due to my year in the US and then walked back into the same position afterwards. | 12:29 |
| troal01 | Here in Canada many universities offers co-op work terms | 12:30 |
| troal01 | I wasn't eligible due to my international student status | 12:30 |
| grantc | the return job was not that good, partly because the bunch of people that went left the support team understaffed.. so for a while we had 200+ unassigned issued in the Q... | 12:31 |
| grantc | so what sort of residency permit do you have? | 12:31 |
| troal01 | I've got a three year work permit at the moment | 12:33 |
| troal01 | Expires in 2012 but I'm planning on applying for permanent residency before that | 12:34 |
| grantc | do you need sponsorship, like in the US? | 12:34 |
| troal01 | I need at least one year of full time work experience here though | 12:34 |
| troal01 | Nope | 12:34 |
| troal01 | Usually having an undergrad and grad degree is enough to get you in, it's just that little piece of work experience that I am lacking | 12:34 |
| grantc | for the points? | 12:35 |
| troal01 | Actually I have enough points WITHOUT the experience but you're automatically disqualified without it | 12:35 |
| grantc | fair enough | 12:36 |
| troal01 | Yeah you need 67 points to qualify, without work experience I score 73, with one year 88 | 12:41 |
| grantc | i guess it proves you will not be a burden on the state | 12:42 |
| troal01 | I guess that's the idea yeah, immigration is such an excruciatingly slow process though :( | 12:43 |
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| troal01 | Ohh the Canadian government has a new program called "Canadian Experience Class" ... it's an expedited program where you can have your permanent residency within three months if you meet the requirements (Canadian degree, one year work experience in Canada, and passed the language test) | 13:14 |
| troal01 | Much better than the year long process of the old program | 13:14 |
| grantc | sounds good | 13:18 |
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| grantc | troal01, do you know what's going on with the cert for code.ingres.com? | 15:51 |
| troal01 | We're still using a self signed one | 15:51 |
| troal01 | Not sure what the status for a "proper" one is | 15:51 |
| grantc | signed for lxr ... | 15:51 |
| grantc | who are you dealing with, phil? | 15:52 |
| DarylM | It also is a self-signed. Which I guess would be OK if there were proper verification steps via another route. | 15:53 |
| grantc | DarylM, that's the main issue | 15:54 |
| troal01 | Problem is bugs lxr and code are on the same machine | 15:54 |
| troal01 | Would be nice to be able to do *.ingres.com | 15:54 |
| grantc | I don't believe getting a UCC will be problematic | 15:55 |
| grantc | i'll have a chat with phil | 15:55 |
| troal01 | Thanks grantc | 15:55 |
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